Incredibly weak shit
Wot if the stong, principled opposition came from the left though?
It's possible. If the Republican Party died, that would leave the Dems in power in a virtual single party state while the left coalesced into a unitied party. We've see this type of think before in American history. One party tramples the other, then splits to form the new two party system.
Biden could do it, if he were willing to purge the Trump faction of the Republican Party, while inviting the moderate ghouls into the Democrats. However, with centrist Democrats as the new right wing, who would stop the country from sliding to the left? No one!?!
for every principled Marxist-Leninist, Maoist, or Anarchist in the united states there’s 10 Qanon weirdos, 20 ancaps/libertarians
doubt, otherwise their shit wouldn't need to be astroturfed to hell and receive manufactured consent in the form of equivalent media coverage for street action with one-tenth of the numbers of left or left-adjacent street action
no doubt on the 30 bread-and-butter types though. rest of your analysis is spot on too
However, with centrist Democrats as the new right wing, who would stop the country from sliding to the left? No one!?!
What would stop the country from sliding farther right tho?
I mean even if there was a succdem labor party it couldn't get enough traction geographically to meaningfully challenge the Democrats, which it would have to because of the Senate and the electoral college, because too many people in the burbs and in the sticks are brainwormed into culture war bullshit. If the Republican party failed today its factions would just end up reconstituting themselves in a different arrangement because of it, like, say, with the concerns of the libertarian right placed above the evangelical right.
Shove this shit in libs' faces. Ask them how to square this with all the horrible shit the Republican Party has done since whenever they started paying attention to politics. Ask them how they expect to address any real problem in a system where Republicans can just unilaterally shut down the conversation.
Won’t work in most cases in my experience. They’ll just say you need to “accept other views” or some shit in the name of civility and bipartisanship
With this response, the approach I've had success with is differentiating between "school gym" issues and "meteor" issues:
- If the discussion is about whether to pass a county sales tax to finance a new gym for the local high school, yeah, of course you want other views, and of course you should be respectful to people who disagree with you on that issue. It's fine -- good, even -- to have all opinions represented.
- But if the discussion is about whether to stop the meteor headed for the planet, the "let it hit" and "the meteor doesn't exist" caucuses should be shouted out of the room, because that bullshit will kill people. Opinions with lethal consequences don't get the same respect dissenting opinions on more mundane issues do.
Then explain how the meteor is Covid, how the meteor is climate change, how the meteor is invading Iraq on a lie, etc.
Or they say "well of course he's SAYING that, it doesn't mean he really believes it"
The "you need two wings to fly" crowd are genuinely some of the biggest rubes or awful scum to ever exist politically.
The argument literally is just that good things are good but they can't happen too fast or have too much good and that's why we need conservatives.
I need a link. This will help in a debate I'm having with liberal dummies. I predicted this would happen on Wednesday.
Edit: the link is in the post. I'm a dumb lib for not seeing it in front of me.
and he's said it many times before including on the 2020 campaign trail
Isn't the Democratic party's entire pitch at this point just that they aren't the Republicans? So now the line is "Vote for us! Because we're not the Republicans, so that we can do exactly what the republicans want anyway!"
"We need nazis, and we need them to be dangerous" - a senile old fuck rapist
What if instead of the Republican Party it was the vanguard party and it was full of principled, Marxist-Leninist who are responsible and beholden to the masses?
If your entire pitch is "I will protect you from his demon" and the demon disappears; you're useless. So of course the dems say we need republicans. Without them they lose their claim to existence.
