Felix, Matt and Virgil were not present and shouldn't get dragged down with them on the matter.
Not to say they never have bad takes or are never wrong on anything, but at minimum they weren't dumb enough to defend cops/criticize ACAB and BLM at the peak of the Floyd protests.
I'm just defending the Good Bois honor and virtue.
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eh im not surprised. arent they best friends with nick mullen who compared obama to a gorilla? didnt they joke about the MOVE bombing to the point that boots riley decided not to come on the show after he had previously said yes? didnt amber accuse ricky rawls of being a big scary black man when he tried to advocate for black povs to be taken into DSA;s organizing around BLM?
theyre not well read enough if they think its okay to be racist or to chill with racist people
Honestly being contrarian to own the libs is their whole schtick. It’s all they have to offer
Yeah Eric Garner. Basically trying to horsewhisper for the black community it was not a good look.
Imagine being a leftist and defending the cops *from mean slogans.
It's pretty hard because you can't do both at the same time.
Edit: Fixed
Nothing they said came close to "defending the cops."
If you're going to criticize what some other leftist said, at least criticize what they said, not some mischaracterization of it.
So you mean he had exactly the same take as obama about slogans? I see, imperialist takes are fine when people we like do it
Except if you listen to the entire episode, they aren't defending cops, they just say some slogans are bad strategy because they will resonate poorly with racial minorities and the working class. You can disagree, but calling it a defense of cops is BS.
Imagine being a leftist and crucifying other leftists because you heard bad gossip about them. Oh, wait, that happens all the time.
White ppl had bad take on BLM more at 11
But yes do not listen to white podcasters talk about BLM-- just won't the same perspective or a perspective that you haven't already heard.
Will is mostly worth listening to for reading series or takes on publishing ghouls because of his background, and Amber wrote way too much on socialism to be having takes that that.
i really have to stretch it to distill her point as "people dont want to be nice, so we can have socialism without being nice" which COULD be a normal point to make, except for the incredibly big, concrete, brutalist BUT that will have to follow.
and at that point I begin to reconstruct her point into one she didn't make at all.
i like dasha better anyway. If barely.
will's a fucking nerd, and not the good kind like virgil
dunno what ep you're referring to, but i just listened to him get mad about that bean dad fuckhead getting bullied. matt and felix at least had cogent points, will was just raging about cancel culture or some shit
oh yeah, but i literally don't give a shit. imagine getting mad about it
Of the chapos Will and Amber are the ones you're not surprised at when the let one bad mother take rip.
Yeah that is one of their worst episodes and I didn’t even finish it. Plus tabibi or whatever is a fucking lib
taibbi seems to be on a path of of glen greenwald, idk if anyone else sees this but he is increasingly becoming a freeze peach warrior and defending some weird shit in doing so. I appreciate a lot of his older work, but within the last year or so I can't honestly say the same thing for that work.
I say this as someone who likes Chomsky but I think Glenn and Taibbi is what happens when post-Friedman libertarians interact with Chomsky and the left.
Or maybe it’s a gen x thing. That Voltaire misquote is one of the worst things ever popularized.
I think folks like Glenn and Matt know don’t know how to pick causes to champion. I don’t give a fuck about Parler or Ron Paul getting banned. Why not write about facebook banning union or protest organizers?
Free speech ideological consistency necessitates defending all of it and it feels like his coverage of left vs right censorship issues at the moment is in line with their present cultural scale of impact. Freedom of speech is the thing that is being defended (not the substance of the speech obvs) so it makes sense as a journalist to follow that where it is most relevant to the current moment. There really has been a very strange almost complete reversal of historical attitudes between the right and left with regards to censorship so it’s a really weird thing to wade through for either side.
"Yeah, no, [ironic ridiculous exaggeration]." –exactly every Felix comment ever, except for the ones that start with "No, yeah..."
Until he gets a new formula that isn’t basically family guy for random twitter I refuse to take him seriously.
The Amber bot admin needs to add a diceroll for their bot, you’re diluting it’s power.
I'm glad this tracks exactly with my opinion on the Chapos. My opinions being validated is good shit.
Will and Amber Bad
Felix mostly good but sometimes bad
Matt and Vergil always good no exceptions don't you dare point out exceptions to me.
Uphold Virgil thought. Always good takes because of his vow of silence.
I don't listen to the pod, but based on an article of her's i've seen Amber should just start a stupidpol podcast
