https://mobile.twitter.com/BrendonCarpent4/status/1350163301540323328
Actually yes. Like yes they are just fascists with the friendly mask. The history book fascism comes out when the friendly mask isn’t cost effective.
This is exactly it. They act like Fascism is something that materializes out of the ether because they refuse to acknowledge that fascism is the "autoimmune" response of Capitalism when challenged.
I've been thinking about this lately and how perhaps neoliberals basically absorbed fascism post-WW2 and just administer it in a different manner from traditional fascists. I figure I can't have come up with that on my own and have been looking for something to read on the subject.
Radio War Nerd has a good episode about how Italian Neoliberals and Fascists were quite open, before WW2, that they were very close twin ideologies. Episode 205, if I am not mistaken.
Thanks, I'm really behind on RWN, I'll have to check it out to continue my justification for subsidizing John Dolan's vagrant lifestyle.
I'd subscribe but I can't keep up with the podcasts I currently pay for
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how Italian Neoliberals and Fascists were quite open, before WW2, that they were very close twin ideologies.
same happened/ is happening with Bolsonaro and neolibs in Brazil. Bolsonaro had the support of over half the legislative and of pretty much all of the neolibs in the runoff.
It is almost like Privatisierung wasn't exclusively a neoliberal agenda.
"Neoliberalism" specifically refers to the free markets fundamentalism that was a reaction to the falling profitability in the 70s. It refers to ideology of people like Friedman, Thatcher, Reagan etc. It's not useful to call anyone who isnt both a leftist or a chud, who is also pro-market, "neoliberal", or you end up doing all kinds of useless theorizing about these mystical "neoliberals".
That guy in particular called himself a left-libertarian (not kidding see his other tweets in that thread).
self-identified neoliberals on the internet
There’s at my a few thousand of those, they just get signal boosted a lot cuz interest groups on The Hill like them.
Another point is half of them admit they’re using the label inaccurately and they’re doing it to “trigger” us.
Really they’re just moderate libertarians. They support some state intervention in the market but only when it’s the most uncontroversial shit that won’t hard business interests at all. Also unlike most libertarians they’re mostly genuine in their support for socially progressive policy like gay marriage or whatever, they just want to make sure it’s implemented in the slowest possible way cuz doing anything too quickly is populism.
It does not just refer to that, or it wouldn't refer to them either and would only refer to the specific Mont Pelerin group. The 80s and Volcker beyond that resulted in almost all of politics shifting to accomodate it, as we saw with epic Democrats doing the Republicans' job with welfare reform under Clinton. It continues past that and Obama and Clinton and Bush and most establishment politicians operated under the general milieu. Neoliberal was never a very consistent polsci term to begin with, but it broadly means right-of-socdem generally centrist capitalists post 80s in practice.
What does centrist capitalist mean? What is right-wing capitalism? Not being antagonistic, just genuinely want to know. In my opinion, the ruling class has no particular ideology of its own, to them it's just tools. Japan and Singapore are examples of this, they use both neoliberal and keynesian policies to try to do something about their stagnating growth.
They're just tools to do whatever serves their interests and aren't so ideologically attached as a whole sure even if individual capitalists might be kinda true believers in this or that, but we still can refer to administrations or specific policy tendencies as more right or more left even if they're all capitalist. Most would say there was a right wing turn in the 80s, or that neoliberal policies are to the right of social democratic ones, even though both are capitalist. Right and left are also mostly vague approximations in the end, and ideology as a whole already stems from material conditions whether capitalist or not.
Still, "generally centrist capitalists" is probably incorrect for describing neolibs in hindsight, they're right wing. I think to return to the original comment though, it's the attempt to mask and justify more privatizing and allowing more market control, but not to the extent that libertarians might allow that I was trying to get at with "centrist". Yang wanted to reduce all social programs for the UBI, which could in its techbro implementation help reduce labor power even more. I don't think calling him a neolib is too far off.
"As you can see by the Big Mac Combo Meal Index, America is the best country on earth".
Well, if the leftists stop pushing back and all supported the liberals in their union busting, tax cutting for the rich etc., then things would just get worse for the workingclass forever! A paradise! Nothing could ever go wrong with that plan!
Victim blaming the Soviets for getting General Plan Ost'd is the thing you do when you're Well Versed In History
Man this stuff annoys me I can handle most stupid internet shit but the spreading outright falsehoods that can't even be dismissed as misunderstanding frustrates me
