Yeah I'm sure the guy who got his start in politics by being a lackey for Delaware banks/credit card companies, supported segregation and bussing and lied about protesting against apartheid and getting arrested for trying to see Nelson Mandela in a racist and cynical attempt to gain votes from POC as recently as 2020 is a good person lmaooo. Why are libs like this, like supporting a political candidate doesn't mean you have to live in a fantasy land where everything they touch turns to gold, but libs always do that.
He also likes ice cream and he has a dog. How could he not be a good guy? :dem:
Dude was good friends with and eulogized Strom Thurmond at his funeral. Don't care how nice of a person Joe Biden may think he is, having Strom Thurmond as anything more than a disliked acquaintance is a disqualifier for "good person".
If anyone tries to bring up the "Biden is a good person" argument, remind them that he blatantly lied about protesting apartheid and getting arrested in South Africa for trying to see Nelson Mandela in prison as recently as 2020, in an obvious foul and racist attempt to gain votes from POC. He said that he got arrested in the streets of Soweto for trying to visit Robben Island, which was the prison Mandela was held in. One problem: Soweto and Robben island are over 1600km (1000 miles) away, so such a situation was impossible and would never happen. Biden quickly had to retract his statement as even the lib media saw though it. No "good person" (which Biden is obviously not) would ever tell such a lie in an extremely cynical attempt to gain votes from marginalised people.
In case they try to claim it was just a senior moment, an extensive history of Biden making shit up out of whole cloth about his civil rights involvement
Nor would any good person claim to be best friends with Strom Thurmond
Had to Google who that was, yikes...
the Wikipedia summary
James Strom Thurmond Sr. was an American military officer, attorney, judge and politician who served for 48 years as a United States Senator from South Carolina. He ran for president in 1948 as the Dixiecrat candidate on a states' rights platform supporting racial segregation.
He had a black child that he abandoned because she was black. He was know as the biggest racist in the senate. That’s quite a tall order.
So fucking cold blooded. Like you made your child, Strom, you don't get to decide she's not up to "your standards" after you fucking helped create her. Jesus fucking Christ, every time I learn something new about these fuckers (and I know a fair bit already) I'm still flabbergasted. I really should learn to be less surprised.
From what I remember, he made infrequent contact with her and her mother and secretly paid her tuition. Still doesn't change the fact that he deprived her of an actual father and was actively trying to make things worse for people like her, mind you.
jesus. like how the Kennedys lobotomized their less than daughter, strom kept away from his kid for political purposes.
if it were basic racism it'd be simple. these people will take the shape of whatever environment they're poured in.
Yep. Learned it the hard way with my friend. Called Obama simply another in the line of neoliberal tools since Reagan. He was almost offended that I would use the word "liberal" to describe anything uncool and liken Obama or, Heavens forbid, Clinton to Reagan.
I called russia-gate a Liberal comfort blanket amped up by mass media but inconsequential. The dumbest member of the group chat said "Listen I'm not reading all this again, Shinji stop throwing niche insults at people".
a Liberal comfort blanket amped up by mass media but inconsequential
Listen I’m not reading all this again
How can you be so proud of your own ignorance?
I even apologized before she said that, explaining I wasn't calling the guy bringing it up the Liberal w/ comfort blanket. He brought up how parler is being hosted in russia and I basically said in many words "I dont care about russia, stop giving credence to russia-gate"
I'm very much in the same boat as you are. I find it's better to just avoid talking about politics with my parents.
Usually, I just try to explicitly tell them "I don't want to talk or hear about politics." Although, I also sometimes drop spicy hot takes to make them want to avoid talking about politics with me (don't try this, it only makes things worse).
Horrifyingly enough that number actually does start to get close to the amount of dead Iraqis. Assuming I live another 50 years (which would be around average) and that I kill as many people as the Las Vegas shooting every single day, that would amount to ~1.1 million people. That's really puts things into perspective, fuck.
Sadly, I can relate to this. It is infuriating when ppl use "are they polite" as a measure for politicians and are completely unimpressed by their policies. It even sucks when you agree with them, because the reasoning behind it matters. I don't really know how to describe it, it feels like arguing with a blind person about how things look, like they don't recognize a head of state should be judged on different merits than if it were the question: is my neighbor nice.
Accuse them both of being sexist for tanking Hillary's 2020 campaign and not voting for her.
Yell "SHES ELECTABLE IF YOU WULDVE VOTED FOR HER"
