AOC is a socdem entirely concerned with the US, thats the real take about her, she soft supports US imperialism in most cases and clearly is not against its hegemony.
If you are an actual socialist you should be internationalist and oppose people like her who sell out the world to offer concessions to the imperial working class.
The only honest reading of AOC's foreign policy is that she has none worth talking about. It's effectively not part of her job description. The president runs the business end of foreign policy almost unilaterally on everything short of an Iraq-scale invasion. AOC has had one term in the House and wasn't even on any foreign policy committees. Votes on this or that foreign policy issue are almost always tied to some domestic program specifically to brow beat anyone who would vote against it.
Any opinion on AOC's foreign policy is just reading tea leaves. It's trying to guess intentions not even based on substantive actions, but on peripheral stuff like a one-off question in an interview. There is zero excuse to interpret that stuff in the worst possible light, and calling for socialists to oppose AOC based on something she has no real influence over is just wrecking. Kindly fuck off with that.
AOC openly stating she doesnt want even democratic socialism but to imitate imperialist social democracy is me reading tea leaves? Learn to listen when politicians tell you who they are.
Really? Show me where she openly said "imperialist social democracy is good." Show me where she openly said anything positive about "imperialism." Or is she not "openly" stating these things, and you're uncharitably reading "imperialism" into comments like "you think Norway has their shit together, well, Norway has universal healthcare"?
The simple explanation here is that (1) she's trying to build support for Medicare for All, and (2) she's associating M4A with countries Americans like to counter narratives like "Obamacare will use death panels to execute grandma." There is no reason to dismiss that straightforward rationale in favor of "AOC is a crypto-imperialist." Again, that's wrecking.
You cant stab someone opposing you in the back, AOC has stated she wants her socialism to be nordic imperialist supporting socdem on so many occasions and backed that up with opposition to demsoc and socialist projects all over the world, but fine if you wanna ritically support Social Democracy in One Country.
"how dare you allow the socdem to participate in our ideologically pure union strike! she is cancelled and can never do anything correct or good!"
shut the fuck up :LIB:
learn to support people when they are doing better, rather than constantly ragging on them for not being perfect even when theyre actively doing the right thing.
You are literally the liberals saying that nothing in the past matters because in the moment someone is doing better, like woohoo W Bush is a hecking resistance agent now you gotta support him because he is doing better.
ah yes, well known warcriminal who has held the office of president and with it the power to make substantive sweeping changes to international policy of the united states checks notes freshman house rep aoc
opposition to demsoc and socialist projects all over the world
Let me guess: a photo op? A one-line answer in an interview? You're right, she basically flew down to Bolivia and personally dragged Morales out of power.
This is weak shit and you should be embarrassed for falling for it. We're not getting anything done if we crucify anyone even kind of good over meaningless retail politics bullshit.
We're never going to take any substantial power in this country ever, are we? Next time you go into work, go over to your co worker and call them a member of the imperial working class. Record the reaction for me please.
AOC is a socdem entirely concerned with the US, thats the real take about her, she soft supports US imperialism in most cases and clearly is not against its hegemony.
If you are an actual socialist you should be internationalist and oppose people like her who sell out the world to offer concessions to the imperial working class.
The only honest reading of AOC's foreign policy is that she has none worth talking about. It's effectively not part of her job description. The president runs the business end of foreign policy almost unilaterally on everything short of an Iraq-scale invasion. AOC has had one term in the House and wasn't even on any foreign policy committees. Votes on this or that foreign policy issue are almost always tied to some domestic program specifically to brow beat anyone who would vote against it.
Any opinion on AOC's foreign policy is just reading tea leaves. It's trying to guess intentions not even based on substantive actions, but on peripheral stuff like a one-off question in an interview. There is zero excuse to interpret that stuff in the worst possible light, and calling for socialists to oppose AOC based on something she has no real influence over is just wrecking. Kindly fuck off with that.
AOC openly stating she doesnt want even democratic socialism but to imitate imperialist social democracy is me reading tea leaves? Learn to listen when politicians tell you who they are.
Really? Show me where she openly said "imperialist social democracy is good." Show me where she openly said anything positive about "imperialism." Or is she not "openly" stating these things, and you're uncharitably reading "imperialism" into comments like "you think Norway has their shit together, well, Norway has universal healthcare"?
The simple explanation here is that (1) she's trying to build support for Medicare for All, and (2) she's associating M4A with countries Americans like to counter narratives like "Obamacare will use death panels to execute grandma." There is no reason to dismiss that straightforward rationale in favor of "AOC is a crypto-imperialist." Again, that's wrecking.
"dear leftists, plz stab the socdems in the back so that we dont have to do it again. love fascists"
if you are an actual socialist you should recognize when people are worth critical support vs active opposition
You cant stab someone opposing you in the back, AOC has stated she wants her socialism to be nordic imperialist supporting socdem on so many occasions and backed that up with opposition to demsoc and socialist projects all over the world, but fine if you wanna ritically support Social Democracy in One Country.
"how dare you allow the socdem to participate in our ideologically pure union strike! she is cancelled and can never do anything correct or good!"
shut the fuck up :LIB:
learn to support people when they are doing better, rather than constantly ragging on them for not being perfect even when theyre actively doing the right thing.
You are literally the liberals saying that nothing in the past matters because in the moment someone is doing better, like woohoo W Bush is a hecking resistance agent now you gotta support him because he is doing better.
ah yes, well known warcriminal who has held the office of president and with it the power to make substantive sweeping changes to international policy of the united states checks notes freshman house rep aoc
fuck off
lol is he or is he not doing better? sounds like you got some learning to do friendo C:
you are such a massive fucking :LIB: it is beyond all comprehension
if george bush were out there supporting strikes, youre god damn right you should critically support that.
but he isnt. the libs were cheering over him because he wasnt a cheeto, not on the basis of him actually doing anything good.
sounds like youre larping as a socialist so you can be a wrecker, friendo
sounds like you havent done your learning C:
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Let me guess: a photo op? A one-line answer in an interview? You're right, she basically flew down to Bolivia and personally dragged Morales out of power.
This is weak shit and you should be embarrassed for falling for it. We're not getting anything done if we crucify anyone even kind of good over meaningless retail politics bullshit.
What the fuck am I falling for? Her showing her cards and you people coping yourself into saying its actually her hiding them from the imperialists?
Let me guess: a photo op? A one-line answer in an interview?
We're never going to take any substantial power in this country ever, are we? Next time you go into work, go over to your co worker and call them a member of the imperial working class. Record the reaction for me please.
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