What a lib.... if she was a true comrade she would have been upstaging the libs at the inauguration like the Chair Man.
turning a big dial taht says “AOC” on it from good to bad and constantly looking back at the leftists for approval like a contestant on the price is right
This reply is the singular reason I still post AOC content on the ChaCha... thank you Poop :fidel-salute-big:
When AOC does something good, AOC good. When AOC does something bad, AOC bad.
I believe that she is good and uncorrupted, but she does stupid things politically because she thinks she has to, to "get things done in Washington" or whatever. Like Bernie.
The standard she's set for herself is impossibly high. She's simply doomed to disappoint people.
Is it really? She just campaigned on challenging Dem power structure from the left.
I don't think anyone expects a US Congresswoman to seize the means of production tomorrow. They just want her to articulate some of their frustration and anger with the Dem party. And she's not doing that. She's doing the same thing Ted Lieu and Adam Schiff do: 80 tweets a day about how shitty Republicans are, and then vague platitudes about how we need healthcare. Then votes for Pelosi and does photo shoots with her. It's very little they're asking of her and she is not even doing that.
There are like 300 Dems in Congress who can rant about Republicans all day while doing nothing to help left causes (even in the very very tiny way that you can do that through Congress). She ran on something different than that which is why she became popular, but she isn't fulfilling that promise.
Exactly, not to mention yesterday was the FIRST TIME SINCE 2018 that she even mentioned DSA on twitter. Nothing during the membership drive.
Yeah, I'm willing to cut her slack I wouldn't for many other people. At the end of the day I've got more in common with her than many others...and, well, she's still pretty significantly outnumbered.
The admins should add that to the side bar. One for Bernie, One for AOC, etc.
I mean we can judge her on an issue to issue basis, like every other fucking poltician
No, I've formed a parasocial relationship with her, and I'm far too emotional about her to do that
Yeah and I've formed a paranemisis relationship with her, so I'm also too emotional.
I mean yes thats what you should do especially when dealing with libs. Thats never how this struggle is presented though
AOC is what she is: a Democrat whose politics are fundamentally opposed to the class that controls and operates the Democrats. I'm not a dialectics understander, but I feel like AOC is the embodiment of some sort of fundamental contradiction the US left faces, where the urgent need for class politics is only given a national platform by the party most capable of neutralizing class politics and rendering it ineffective.
What a lib…
It's weird that any positive act by AOC is used to combat from real criticisms.
I'd be (rightfully!) mocked if I brought up Amy Kloubuchar's time on the UAW picket-line to combat criticisms toward her.
50 years from now Teen Vogue will enjoy the status of Pravda
AOC is a socdem entirely concerned with the US, thats the real take about her, she soft supports US imperialism in most cases and clearly is not against its hegemony.
If you are an actual socialist you should be internationalist and oppose people like her who sell out the world to offer concessions to the imperial working class.
The only honest reading of AOC's foreign policy is that she has none worth talking about. It's effectively not part of her job description. The president runs the business end of foreign policy almost unilaterally on everything short of an Iraq-scale invasion. AOC has had one term in the House and wasn't even on any foreign policy committees. Votes on this or that foreign policy issue are almost always tied to some domestic program specifically to brow beat anyone who would vote against it.
Any opinion on AOC's foreign policy is just reading tea leaves. It's trying to guess intentions not even based on substantive actions, but on peripheral stuff like a one-off question in an interview. There is zero excuse to interpret that stuff in the worst possible light, and calling for socialists to oppose AOC based on something she has no real influence over is just wrecking. Kindly fuck off with that.
AOC openly stating she doesnt want even democratic socialism but to imitate imperialist social democracy is me reading tea leaves? Learn to listen when politicians tell you who they are.
openly stating
imperialist social democracy
Really? Show me where she openly said "imperialist social democracy is good." Show me where she openly said anything positive about "imperialism." Or is she not "openly" stating these things, and you're uncharitably reading "imperialism" into comments like "you think Norway has their shit together, well, Norway has universal healthcare"?
The simple explanation here is that (1) she's trying to build support for Medicare for All, and (2) she's associating M4A with countries Americans like to counter narratives like "Obamacare will use death panels to execute grandma." There is no reason to dismiss that straightforward rationale in favor of "AOC is a crypto-imperialist." Again, that's wrecking.
"dear leftists, plz stab the socdems in the back so that we dont have to do it again. love fascists"
if you are an actual socialist you should recognize when people are worth critical support vs active opposition
You cant stab someone opposing you in the back, AOC has stated she wants her socialism to be nordic imperialist supporting socdem on so many occasions and backed that up with opposition to demsoc and socialist projects all over the world, but fine if you wanna ritically support Social Democracy in One Country.
"how dare you allow the socdem to participate in our ideologically pure union strike! she is cancelled and can never do anything correct or good!"
shut the fuck up :LIB:
learn to support people when they are doing better, rather than constantly ragging on them for not being perfect even when theyre actively doing the right thing.
You are literally the liberals saying that nothing in the past matters because in the moment someone is doing better, like woohoo W Bush is a hecking resistance agent now you gotta support him because he is doing better.
ah yes, well known warcriminal who has held the office of president and with it the power to make substantive sweeping changes to international policy of the united states checks notes freshman house rep aoc
fuck off
lol is he or is he not doing better? sounds like you got some learning to do friendo C:
you are such a massive fucking :LIB: it is beyond all comprehension
if george bush were out there supporting strikes, youre god damn right you should critically support that.
but he isnt. the libs were cheering over him because he wasnt a cheeto, not on the basis of him actually doing anything good.
sounds like youre larping as a socialist so you can be a wrecker, friendo
opposition to demsoc and socialist projects all over the world
Let me guess: a photo op? A one-line answer in an interview? You're right, she basically flew down to Bolivia and personally dragged Morales out of power.
This is weak shit and you should be embarrassed for falling for it. We're not getting anything done if we crucify anyone even kind of good over meaningless retail politics bullshit.
What the fuck am I falling for? Her showing her cards and you people coping yourself into saying its actually her hiding them from the imperialists?
showing her cards
Let me guess: a photo op? A one-line answer in an interview?
offer concessions to the imperial working class.
We're never going to take any substantial power in this country ever, are we? Next time you go into work, go over to your co worker and call them a member of the imperial working class. Record the reaction for me please.
I'm picturing the collective aneurysm this community would have if V8ush did a charity drive livestream on the picket line.
Join a party/collective/org and be the one supporting and organizing union strikes and such.
