If the military lib takes continue, someone is gonna have to post the comic about the soldier killing a kids parents and him telling the kid it wasnt his fault
“All troops are forever irredeemable” is a bad take, as is "troops are basically the same as cops." Troops aren't good, and we should be automatically skeptical of them, but there are real differences.
For troops, the most powerful military on earth uses the most powerful propaganda machine on earth to target kids who are barely shaving for recruitment. That kid has zero firsthand experience with the reality of the imperial war machine, and if they try to quit once they’re in they can get a black mark next to their name that will impede their ability to get housing, education, and employment for the rest of their life. We can’t hold a kid 100% responsible – with no possibility of forgiveness at any point – for their decision under these conditions. That’s totally inconsistent with how leftists should think about culpability and rehabilitation in any other scenario.
Compare this to cops, who generally sign up for pig school in their 20s, who live under the realities of American policing every day, and who can quit at any time with no real repercussions.
“All troops are forever irredeemable” is a bad take,
Pretty sure only we privileged westerners who have to opportunity to have this "debate" may think this and not the Afghan child that saw their family get blown up by a drone, they certainly wouldn't give a fuck if that US soldier is a doctor, some bureaucratic pencil pusher down the chain of command or the war criminal that piloted the drone.
Read the rest of the comment, though. In no other context would leftists find it acceptable to write someone off for the rest of their life, especially if there are significant mitigating circumstances, and even if they were only tangentially linked to direct harm (e.g., some pencil pusher who's spent his entire career at a base in Kansas).
Imagine some 17-year-old was pressured into joining a gang. He just sells drugs, but other members of his gang kill people. If he thinks he's in over his head and tries to leave the gang, they're going to make life pretty hard for him. Should our 17-year-old drug dealer be put to death? Should he be imprisoned for life? Or should we consider the circumstances of how he got in the gang in the first place, and how easy it would have been for him to leave, and what he personally did, and have some avenue for him to redeem himself?
I will have you know that I only bend over backwards to yell a single thing at a time.
And right now (bends backwards) it's that it is January 27, 2021, and Joe Biden is still a rapist.
Now, allow me to bend backwards a second, distinctly separate time: directing your blame and hatred towards individual cops or service members for crimes committed by other individuals, and due to systemic issues caused by capitalism, is stupid, counterproductive, and fractures solidarity of the working class.
This literally excuses nothing.
Thank you for your patience as I bent over two, distinctly separate times.
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If the military lib takes continue, someone is gonna have to post the comic about the soldier killing a kids parents and him telling the kid it wasnt his fault
I did something similar a few months ago and the takes were off the charts. Any essential worker is braver than the shitty troops in my eyes
Honestly, you are just as bad as a lib. You want to lazily blame a target to make yourself feel better.
Who, exactly, is excusing such behavior?
Go talk about the "clean" Wehrmacht to someone who cares westerner
Who the fuck is even saying that?
All I'm seeing is cowardly class traitors consumed by impotent hatred.
You arent even part of the international proletariat, you are labor aristocracy that currently defending the class traitors know as the US military
I nearly died, unemployed, because of the American healthcare system. My lifespan is limited because I was born working class.
I earn my living now, by selling my labor. And definitely not in the military. I own no capital.
Fuck you. I stand with my brothers and sisters in the working class they sell their labor in the military or not.
“All troops are forever irredeemable” is a bad take, as is "troops are basically the same as cops." Troops aren't good, and we should be automatically skeptical of them, but there are real differences.
For troops, the most powerful military on earth uses the most powerful propaganda machine on earth to target kids who are barely shaving for recruitment. That kid has zero firsthand experience with the reality of the imperial war machine, and if they try to quit once they’re in they can get a black mark next to their name that will impede their ability to get housing, education, and employment for the rest of their life. We can’t hold a kid 100% responsible – with no possibility of forgiveness at any point – for their decision under these conditions. That’s totally inconsistent with how leftists should think about culpability and rehabilitation in any other scenario.
Compare this to cops, who generally sign up for pig school in their 20s, who live under the realities of American policing every day, and who can quit at any time with no real repercussions.
Pretty sure only we privileged westerners who have to opportunity to have this "debate" may think this and not the Afghan child that saw their family get blown up by a drone, they certainly wouldn't give a fuck if that US soldier is a doctor, some bureaucratic pencil pusher down the chain of command or the war criminal that piloted the drone.
Read the rest of the comment, though. In no other context would leftists find it acceptable to write someone off for the rest of their life, especially if there are significant mitigating circumstances, and even if they were only tangentially linked to direct harm (e.g., some pencil pusher who's spent his entire career at a base in Kansas).
Imagine some 17-year-old was pressured into joining a gang. He just sells drugs, but other members of his gang kill people. If he thinks he's in over his head and tries to leave the gang, they're going to make life pretty hard for him. Should our 17-year-old drug dealer be put to death? Should he be imprisoned for life? Or should we consider the circumstances of how he got in the gang in the first place, and how easy it would have been for him to leave, and what he personally did, and have some avenue for him to redeem himself?
I will have you know that I only bend over backwards to yell a single thing at a time.
And right now (bends backwards) it's that it is January 27, 2021, and Joe Biden is still a rapist.
Now, allow me to bend backwards a second, distinctly separate time: directing your blame and hatred towards individual cops or service members for crimes committed by other individuals, and due to systemic issues caused by capitalism, is stupid, counterproductive, and fractures solidarity of the working class.
This literally excuses nothing.
Thank you for your patience as I bent over two, distinctly separate times.