• Grownbravy [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    “Not only do I not know the situation, but I REFUSE to learn. Anyway the way these people are doing it is bad cause us-foreign-policy

    Every. Fucking. Time.

    • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Hamas enjoyed popular support for precisely those reasons in the early 2000s. Many Palestinians viewed them as extremist, but capable at building things like school systems and mutual aid societies without the baggage and corruption of the PLO/FataH.

      Edit: someone posted more detail here

  • reaper_cushions [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Two million people on an area half the size of Hamburg with no possibility of trading goods or services. Good luck building anything under such circumstances.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Israel does not allow building materials to be imported into Gaza, either.

  • TheLastHero [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    But Hamas is famous for their social services they provide in Gaza? I guess this lib didn't mean that kind of civil society, he means they should open a small business or some shit. Regardless why bother building anything when Israel will just blow it up once you are done?

  • Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    I think you're confusing which country you're talking about, let me fix this for you:

    Imagine if Zelenskyy government used their power to create a thriving Ukrainian civil society, fight corruption, or benefit people to show the path to a successful Ukrainian state

    Instead we get kidnappings and throats getting slit on film

    Zelenskyy achieves nothing but revenge fantasies

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "Revenge fantasies"

    Revenge for WHAT exactly? Doesn't someone have to be wronged in the first place in order for them to seek revenge? What was the wrongful act against them, Zionist?

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      1 year ago

      99% of people with Ukraine flags in their display name or PFP have had some form of fantasy about what will happen to Russian soldiers or Russia as a whole.

    • Magician [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Time isn't a thing to these people. They only see the immediate story put in front of them and think they're nuanced enough to not see bias. Without questioning why this is making the news in more places than the the events leading up to this.

      To them, context is 'whataboutism.'

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    create a thriving Palestinian civil society

    with what resources exactly? Israel literally just steals Palestinian tax money, what the fuck are the Palestinians supposed to build their society with, hopes and dreams?

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Liberals: "Palestinians should fight Israel non-violently"

    Palestinians do BDS

    Liberals: "No that's evil"

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Liberals: "Palestinians should fight Israel die silently and violently"

      There, that's what they actually believe behind their coward masks

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        sure they may all be dead, but the moral victory is theirs! rejoice, corpses, the western left is in your corner once more!

  • halfpipe [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    They spent decades trying every possible way to get a deal or some kind of accommodation that would let them live and build something, and all it ever got them was more settlers and more death. Shit, it wasn't that long ago that they tried a Ghandi style peaceful march to the ghetto walls , the Israeli's shot 8000+ of them and the world hardly noticed.

    I took a long time to get to this point. Conditions have to become completely intolerable before the average person decides that a fight against jets, drone swarms and automated machine guns is preferable to life under occupation.

    • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Israel has been tightening the screws on palestine for years. Less and less access to medical care, food, and even jobs.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    imagine if hamas built schools and hospitals and ran apartments for gazans so they can be housed and then imagine if isreal bombed and sabotaged these things

    its easy because you dont have to imagine

  • NotErisma
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

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      • NotErisma
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        1 year ago

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    • jaeme
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      1 year ago

      When will libs stop playing with wojacks like they're dolls?

      Wojacks-based-order.