I thought their offer would be around half at ~$1T. But I keep forgetting that "not giving a single fuck" is so 2020. They're way beyond that now.
GOP's COVID-19 relief proposal totals $600B, includes $1K payments
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said on Sunday that the framework for a COVID-19 economic relief package unveiled by 10 Republican senators would cost $600 billion, less than half the price of the Biden administration’s $1.9 trillion proposal.
Cassidy said on "Fox News Sunday" that the pared-down GOP proposal unveiled earlier Sunday includes $1,000 direct payments to individuals that would be targeted to certain income levels. He did not specify if the GOP’s threshold would be those who made under $75,000 in the 2019 tax year. President Biden’s proposal includes a third round of direct payments totaling $1,400.
Funding for schools is also slashed in the GOP package, which Cassidy said offers $20 billion instead of Biden’s $170 billion. Cassidy noted previous COVID-19 relief proposals that funded schools and the notion that helping public schools would help teachers' unions who are skeptical of whether returning to in-person teaching is safe.
Cassidy said one area of agreement is vaccinations, with the 10 GOP senators agreeing to match the White’s House’s $160 billion figure to distribute and administer shots.
Biden said Friday that he supports passing a COVID-19 relief package with Republican votes “if we can get it, but the COVID relief has to pass. There’s no if, ands of butts.”
Last week, Biden administration officials held a call with 16 senators, including eight lawmakers from each party, about the White House’s COVID-19 relief package. The call was characterized as a “productive” conversation but several Republicans have called Biden’s plan too expensive.
The $1.9 trillion plan by the White House also includes an extension of emergency unemployment benefits past mid-March. A proposal by the Biden administration to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour was met with pushback by Republicans who argue it would cost American jobs.
There was somebody on Twitter who said "What are Republicans going to do, are they seriously going to vote down vaccine funding during a pandemic?"
based yes guy but it's the decrepit healthcare pls guy Yes.
If Democrats introduced a $3T bill their rebuttal probably would have been closer to $1T. Republicans know how to negotiate. Over the absolute lowest you're willing to go first, then the final amount will be lower overall. Dems already talked themselves down to $1.9 before even opening negotiations. They could have, with just as much effort and ease, said $4T that includes suspension of rent and mortgages, student loan forgiveness, more vaccine infrastructure, and direct payments. Probably other shit too. But nope. Gotta do the lib thing and then point to how horrible Republicans are for actually fighting for their position.
if they ACTUALLY cared, the first proposal would be "insurance companies are now state owned, that stock is worthless and anyone who had a substantial investment would lose it as punishment for investing in human misery. executives would be lined up against the wall and shot, or we could build a gas chamber if that ends up being cheaper. then we have a public option, and a "get the fuck out" option" as a starting point.
but you see how much of a fairy story wet dream that sounds like? you literally can't even imagine them caring.
I seriously wonder how many GOP votes a "compromise" bill of, say, $800B would get. For the vast majority of GOP that number is still way too high. Maybe it would get 4 GOP votes? And then the dems would have to do reconciliation anyway.
Gotta do the lib thing and then point to how horrible Republicans are for actually fighting for their position.
When it comes to libs - "We are better people" does seem bred in bone.
If Biden and the dems don't kill the filibuster - their stupidity is insane. If all that stupidity had mass - it would be bigger than the Sun.
Lets begin compromising from a compromised position to make sure we avoid real policy changes <-- Dem strategy
The Dems were doing this back in the primaries, giving concessions before negotiations started. There was Medicare for all who want it, cancelling loans for pell grant recipients, promising not to bad fracking etc. It makes it easier for them to not deliver, if they barely offer anything.
Democrats: Best we can do is $400 billion
Republicans: $50 billion, final offer
Eventually, the one party with actual power at the federal level settles on subsidizing the mypillow guy so that everyone who purchases a coronavirus vaccine gets 10% off of their next purchase of his pillows. This is heralded as proof that the Biden administration is the most progressive administration in U.S. history.
Why tf are Dems concerned about bipartisanship right now? The original $2T plan already sucked, but at least push that through so people can have money. You literally don’t need republican support, lmao.
Biden negotiations might increase that to $610B
(the extra 10B going to awareness raising programs)
Seriously who fucking falls for the "might cost us jobs" lie still? Do they just repeat it because they have to at this point?
Fun fact, did you know it was never $1400 and was actually always $1000?
I've started to get mad at libs at reddit. So I created a copy and paste...
Remember what Biden said. Here - read...
"$2,000 checks will go out the door immediately."
To recap
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$1,400 is not $2000.
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Weeks (or months) later is not immediately.
And then I disable replies.
don't even give a timeline. just say "it has been X days, which is, as far as I can tell; longer than "immediately""
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First of all, half of the GOP congress belongs in prison, even by white lib standards.
Put them in fucking jail first
$2000? C'mon man, what do you want with $1400? Alright Jack, you can have the $1000.
Old Joe plays 57D chess. And he always wins because he always plays himself.
I wonder who gets the other half
C'mon, man - the banksters deserve a little something.
Yes but hear me out what if we formed a party that always compromised with these people and we called it Third Way.
You forced me to start a thread: Centrism questions.
I tried to make Third Way joke but I failed because all I know is the term. I have no actual idea what it really is other than a form of dipshit centrism.
What annoys me the most is that I somehow didn't see that the logic would be $1,400 + $600 = $2,000.
I thought Biden/Dems would get checks out veeeeeery slowly (say late Feb) but they would be $2,000. I know the term "bait and switch" so what was I thinking?
I actually had the exact opposite, I clocked the whole '2000 instead of 600' thing but assumed foolishly that they would have to do it as soon as the new senate was in because every day that passed weakened the 'this is fulfilling the $2000 promise!' argument. If both went out in January, I think they would have a leg to stand on, but once four months have passed that $600 will be a distant fucking memory.
Its just such a colossal failure on so many levels though, having gone back and watched the Georgia ads (I was checked out of elections for that) its undeniable that they promised an additional 2000, but even if they wanted to pull the bait-and-switch, they even failed the switch! As it stands republicans delivered 1800, and democrats are telling everyone they are stupid for having thought the dems would give you 200 more, and instead offered 400 less at some vague point in the future, as the starting point for a negotiation
The dem promised to give people money. One, obviously that's a political winner. Two, this situation is as simple to understand as a situation there is yet the dems are clearly fucking it up with no way to make a plausible excuse. I've seen a few comments that use clichés like: "The democrats are negotiating with themselves". That's good phrase to describe typically stupid dem behavior. But to me this is a truly stunning level of idiocy. This is like doing an own goal intentionally.
I think I'm joking but I'm not sure when make this prediction. The dems finally decide to do reconciliation. But Manchin and Sinema (and other dems?) demand the bill is $1T because it's a nice round, big number and "it's big enough". And the dems actually end up making the bill $1T.
