https://lemmy.world/post/6510525

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    1 year ago

    I'm just exhausted. "Unlike you, I believe the cop at my school is human." "I just can't endorse the use of violence." "We can't win anything if we're mean to people." "Hatred never got us anywhere."

    Oh, where were you when all of the oppression was happening?

    "I didn't agree with that, either."

    Didn't think to smugly chide those in power, though, now did you? Because that's inevitable, but our response is unjustified escalation . . .

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This site is the only place I can look at news and politics discussion without feeling like I am completely insane

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    100% this guy does some retail or email/excel/IT office job. Why are they speaking like they have any influence on American foreign policy lmao

  • Gorillatactics [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars. I still don't understand but I used to not understand too.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      You cannot convince me this is not a child. This is baby's first reddit atheist moment (and I say this as a reddit atheist).

    • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      The most Reddit comment to ever exist. Only missing a porn reference and the word "bacon" in there.

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          this made me stop being an atheist.

          there is a hell and we are in it right now

          • ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            there is a hell and we are in it right now

            I started reconsidering atheism and seriously considering Catharism when I came to this realization.

            • UlyssesT
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          • silent_water [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            no one makes me rethink my atheism as fast as a reddit atheist. I've resolved to never read anything they've written in order to keep the philosophical underpinnings of the way I think on firm ground.

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    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      "why not just deploy some dual faithed Messiah figurehead"

      He's actually asking for CIA Jesus?

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        "Why don't we just trick all the simple minded brown people with a shiny new religion?"

        Gee I wonder why Americans have a global reputation as being somehow both condescending and self righteous and simultaneously dumber than dogshit.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      smuglord Have they considered just not believing in a freaking sky wizard, since that's all this conflict is really about?

      I took a look at their profile, and found casual ableism and misanthropy, the reddit-logo runs deep.

      • machiabelly [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Except in dune it was a hundred years long project done by a powerful cabal with magical powers.

        And the messiah had literally all the best magical powers.

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        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah obviously in dune it’s shown as bad because it basically kicked off the biggest genocide of all time

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  • the_kid
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    1 year ago

    this is one of the propaganda lines that westerners have been fed about the war. some of the ones I can think of:

    1. this war has been going on forever

    2. this is a religious conflict

    3. it's extremely complicated and ~nuanced~

    for each one of these, the conclusion is "well, we can't really do anything about it, it's unsolvable". in reality, any reading of the history tells you that it hasn't been going on all that long, it has next to nothing to do with religion, and it's not complicated. Israel is clearly in the wrong, and there is a clear way to end the conflict practically overnight.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yep, blew my mind when I realized the people who were saying "it's a thousand year old religious conflict, an eternal battle between jews and muslims" were 100% full of shit. Israel was invented after WW2 and is a pretty clear cut colony and occupier. It's so simple it's hilarious, Israel is completely illegal and illegitimate

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Israel is in the wrong but I don't think there's a way to end it overnight

      • the_kid
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        1 year ago

        the US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit (as witnessed by endless UN resolutions). end all aid to them, end all diplomatic cover, sanction them into oblivion, and I guarantee you the occupation is over within a week.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit

          I have bad news to you about the other garden countries.

          • machiabelly [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Obviously US allies will support US foreign policy. If the US stopped caring or being powerful that would change quickly.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Isolate Israel diplomatically, cut off their funding from Europe/America and watch them slowly dissolve as the military breaks down and most of the population moves back to their original nations of origin.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Sorry but I simply cannot be a real Jewish man if I’m forced to worship with poor Jews in the US. I need to feel powerful by kicking out a family of 5 and feeling oppressed when they take shots at me

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      The incredible thing is that one of the first results for the conflict is an article from the liberal media outlet Vox which calls all three of those talking points a myth

  • utopologist [any]
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    1 year ago

    We're reaching levels of liberal condescension that shouldn't even be possible

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      1 year ago

      These Childlike Natives just cannot be trusted with the dehumanizing and oppressive social order that we graciously designed for them!

  • muddi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Is that person American? Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more "adult" than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires

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