“Palestinians have tried everything. Israel keeps trying to ethnically cleanse them” “They haven’t but I wish they did”

I’m too tired to try to deeply psychoanalyze this or whatever but it feels like they deep down understand their position relies on defense of Empire and presupposition of their monopoly of violence against rowdy upstarts, and when backed into a corner they start running their mouths without the usual window dressing.

  • flan [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Meanwhile Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a genocide and we have geoncide shadow boxing in China. But yeah sure just go ahead and flatten Gaza.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yesterday i actually saw the phrase "glass the strip" get upvotes. Just like that we're back in 2002

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        1 year ago

        If this doesn’t unequivocally show that liberal “human rights” is a complete and total sham then I don’t know what will.

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    2 months ago

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  • newmou [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    No need to psychoanalyze, it’s just the mindset of an ethnic cleanser

  • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Getting the vibe that the libs are all pulling out their ai generated black/brown person avi accounts to post their Zionist/colonialist shit takes

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      as funny as that is to think about, black conservatives actually exist and are absolutely integrated into the white supremacist hegemony of the American state and its pro-Israel anti-Palestinian foreign policy. See: Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, black politicians from both bourgeois parties who, if I am not mistaken, have always firmly supported American foreign policy decisions with respect to Israel. The black conservative clergy in America is also supportive of Israel. It is upsetting to remember that even leaders well-loved by the left like MLK were supportive of Israel (despite Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians beginning as early as 1948).

      • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        That is true, but to be fair to MLK, I don't think Israel's role in serving US/capitalist empire was as clear then as it is today.

        • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          MLK was fallible, Israel was clearly what it was then. The genocide began in 48 and was apparent then as well, to those with their eyes open.

          “Did the Zionists have the legal or moral right to invade Arab Palestine, uproot its Arab citizens from their homes and seize all Arab property for themselves just based on the "religious" claim that their forefathers lived there thousands of years ago? Only a thousand years ago the Moors lived in Spain. Would this give the Moors of today the legal and moral right to invade the Iberian Peninsula, drive out its Spanish citizens, and then set up a new Moroccan nation ... where Spain used to be, as the European zionists have done to our Arab brothers and sisters in Palestine?...”

          http://www.malcolm-x.org/docs/gen_zion.htm

  • tickthetunic [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    The other day I saw the line "The only reason why Gaza isn't flattened is because of the outside backlash they would get if they did so. You dont realize how much they hold back". Uhhhh thats not a positive thing?

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It also seems like an argument for more strongly condemning them.

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        That's only if you don't want Gaza flattened which uhhh...not the vibe I'm getting of a lot of people currently

  • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    They argued the same thing in defense of the US wars on Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. That the might of the US military is unfairly restricted from unleashing its full potential upon the savages because bleeding heart leftists are holding them back. How cool would it be if we really did wield as much influence as chuds say.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    When backed into a corner morally, they do what culls like landlords and other indefensibles do, and revel in the harm they cause.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      In seriousness, it will really be bad for the Palestinians but I don't think Israel is going to come out of its "special military operation" feeling any less humiliated than in 2006.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Agree. Urban warfare is notoriously casualty intensive and advantages in training and equipment tend to equalize when both sides can reach out and hit the other with a shovel.

        The IDF has repeatedly shown that the one thing it can't tolerate is take high casualties and while the IDF might be motivated by revenge, the Palestinians are fighting for their lives.

        • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Funny you say that. A common pop history trope in regards to Israeli military history (and national myth in general) is how Israel was able to defeat multiple Arab states at once since 1948 because it was a plucky underdog fighting for its survival. Having a core of trained veterans up against former colonial police which Arab armies were based around (which they actually outnumbered at points), plus support by the west is almost always glossed over. Plus it contains the implication that Diaspora Jews were too weak-willed to fight against European fascists.

          So a plucky underdog with no real international support whatsoever using fucking rockets and hang gliders managing to humiliate an incredibly well-armed barracks state through protracted warfare goes above and beyond just ironic.