Capitalist society certainly exaggerates our symptoms, but doesn't cause them. Telling us we're methheads because of capitalism is not a good look.

  • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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    4 years ago

    Do these people think ADHD only affects work and school??? It fucks with my personal habits and ability to maintain personal relationships too, are those things late capitalist???

  • SeizeDameans [she/her,any]
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    4 years ago

    Or maybe capitalist society makes our symptoms more annoying because they don't fit in with what people expect...?

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I just want to be nocturnal. I wish society would accommodate me. I do my best work at 4am.

  • Bakuphoon [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah that's a dumb take. My adhd gives me skills ill-suited for capitalism, but it doesn't cause it.

  • grilldaddy [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I'm ADHD as fuck and agree his take is kind of dumb but I'm not really offended by it. You can say that capitalism "causes your disorder" in that it probably wouldn't be seen as a disorder if it weren't for capitalism, which is different from saying it wouldn't exist. I'm not sure what he really meant. Anyway I have no scruples about the fact that what I take is basically speed lol.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      4 years ago

      Anyway I have no scruples about the fact that what I take is basically speed lol.

      One of my favorite things is flippantly referring to my medication as The Fun Drugs(tm) even though the only fun I derive from it is fun-ctioning

    • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I have ADHD and it 100% would be a disorder without capitalism, sometimes I can't even pay attention to people when they're talking to me

      • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I feel you. Reading something I'm invested in, and line by line there's a struggle where I'll find my mind elsewhere and staring out the window. Watching something I like, listening to a podcast, continuously rewinding because I missed it. I think my introverted-ness comes from both being constantly distracted and not wanting to make others feel like I'm not really there with them. The amount of partners asking "what are you thinking about?" and I snap back to them and am like... I don't even know, nothing? everything? is... a lot

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Me reading: "I'm bored. I should skip ahead."

          skips ahead

          Also me reading: "shit I'm missing important context."

          goes back to point where I skipped ahead

          I'm pretty sure the reason I "learn so quickly" is because I have to read things four times just to get to the end.

          • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            I’m pretty sure the reason I “learn so quickly” is because I have to read things four times just to get to the end

            Oh I can relate to that so much

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I am gonna go full anprim here. The drive to get distracted when other cavepeople where explaining where rain came from would only have added to survival chances.

        Like, the head man is going on about the frogs talking to clouds again and you notice a bee off in the distance you can follow to some rad honey.

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Anprim is looking more and more appealing every day. Working 4 hours a day picking berries and throwing sharpened rocks at animals then coming home, feasting, and having a tribal orgy sounds like Valhalla to me.

          • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            It is literally what we were born to do. Every bit of most of our DNA was tuned to function perfectly at that effort. In my essay about the importance of creating erotic battle anime in the future FALGSC I will....

    • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah I don’t personally have scruples about the speed either, but I really DO NOT like it when neurotypical people refer to it as speed/meth. Kinda like how I wouldn’t want straight cis people referring to me as queer even though I am queer.

      • grilldaddy [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Many ADD drugs are amphetamines. I don't judge addicts or recreational drug users negatively for their use so drawing comparisons between drugs that are in the same class as the ones I use isn't something that I see as offensive in the slightest, but to each their own.

        • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah I don’t judge addicts or recreational users either. The reason it bothers me when NTs use those terms is because it’s almost always accompanied by fun NT opinions such as:

          -saying that ADHD is fake

          -saying that I’m faking my ADHD to get drugs (with bonus implication that recreational users are bad)

          -saying that I should go off my medication because using amphetamines at all is bad regardless of the reason and I’ll be just fine without

          • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            This is a great point, it's like someone who says that nazis called themselves "national socialists" or that Abraham Lincoln was a member of the republican party. They technically haven't said anything wrong yet, but it's always accompanied by other garbage opinions.

            • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              You can literally feel them doubt your disability as it happens.

              Usually accompanied by a facial expression that says, "you can't have adhd. you're not a spaz"

        • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          You can "not judge" addicts or recreational drug users and ALSO understand that there is a difference between someone using a drug recreationally and using it to treat a neurodevelopmental disorder. That's why it bothers me when people like this are all "lol just admit you're on speed just like recreational users - oh you're offended? Why do you hate drug addicts you asshole? Oh you think you're better than everyone else?" Just... shut up dude (tweeter, not you). We all understand that the drug is the same. We can also agree that what one person is doing with it is different than the other without saying that either of them is a bad person.

          • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
            hexagon
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            4 years ago

            I love abusing drugs...just not adderall.

            Weirdly, I prefer the non-chemically addicting drugs. Too terrified of my addictive personality to try opiates tho.

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Good point, but mildly disagree. Anyone who loses things they're holding in their own hand as much as I do has a disorder.

      I love my meth derivative! Not really offended by it either, but I know other comrades might be. I refer to it as "my morning meth".

  • dontknowoldpassword [love/loves]
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    4 years ago

    I know I wouldn't have a toothbrush with Communism, but that does not make brushing my teeth a capitalist activty.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I don't know about others who suffer from this, but I am so, so tired of people analysing my condition.

    The worst advice I've been told is "have you tried concentrating harder?"

    yeah, jeez why didn't I think of that? :agony-acid:

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Fuck. I hate this so much.

      "You seem to be struggling. Have you tried [basic thing] before."

      " Yes. Yes I have"

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          It's the worst. Especially being diagnosed as an adult. People just want to think you're lazy or not trying hard enough.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    4 years ago

    I finally got my medication refilled this week after rationing/being out for several months and a thing I said out loud today was "I'm so glad that I don't have to skip my weekend doses anymore so I can actually feel like myself and do things tomorrow" but yeah sure it's purely for functioning under capitalism

    No need to discuss how when I'm unmedicated I have a hard time focusing on things I like to do for fun, like writing and reading, or how I literally can't think of my basic preferences like "what food do I like to eat" or "what do I like to listen to" so my sense of self is super eroded compared to when I'm, you know, getting treated for the disorder that makes me unable to function. But lol yeah it's all capitalism huh

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I appreciate my unmedicated days sometimes tho. Usually one day a week it's nice to sleep in. Back when I had to participate in society, if I didn't take it first thing in the morning, I wouldn't take it because it keeps me up too late.

      • john_browns_beard [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I skip on the weekends if I can just so I don't build tolerance. If it's a day when I'm at home and I really don't have much to do, it's not really a big deal.

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Basically what I do. Why would I want to waste it if I'm just gonna be playing Smash and fucking around with new linux distros in a VM?

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    4 years ago

    This is a shit take. Thank you for calling it out, comrade. :red-fist:

  • superdoctorman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Isn't it generally accepted that late capitalism causes an increase of mental disorders?

    IE depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, and that imbalance is caused by the stress of living under late capitalism.

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Definitely doesn't help. Can't speak to depression, but ADHD has a genetic origin.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I dunno. There is a point about how living in the wild ADHD wouldn't have been maladaptive.

    Like, what if one cave person in twenty was easily distracted by leafs rustling. That would increase leapord detection enough to be a useful trait.

    In our modern world where there are so supprise threats or good forage to miss that just isn't useful anymore.

  • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    There's structural, visible differences in brain topology between people who have ADHD and people who don't. Vision and attention tests also reliably distinguish people with ADHD. There's a significant genetic component attested to in numerous studies. Nah.