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      • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Obviously it'd have been better to walk at that point, but I wonder what kind of pressure she was under to do this role, especially considering dancing in Sia's music videos boosted her fame.

        • rozako [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Sia and her have a weird relationship. Sia made her sleep in bed with her when she was a young teen :/

            • rozako [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Their relationship is WEIRD!!! I was a big Dance Moms fans for a few years, and now that I'm older, it's just so creepy looking back. Like big grooming vibes.

              • Lord_ofThe_FLIES [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I know Sia from that on David Guetta song like 10 years ago and that's it, and now I don't want to learn about her more. How do these things happen? How is that allowed? Doesn't the little girl have parents???

                • rozako [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  Her mom did let her be verbally abused for years by her dance coach on national tv from the age of 8. So she sucks and enables it all really.

                  It started out as Maddie getting a role in a music video for Sia, and their professional career just kept going and getting more intense. It's really sad. Like she's only 18 now but they have been working together since Maddie was 11.

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I know we aspies like to shit on Sheldon Cooper's characterization but that's a much more flattering depiction of autism than whatever this must be. Big yikes if this isn't just a brief snapshot of the character in motion.

      • TossedAccount [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Also I don't think any autistic person would accept a role in a film where Autism Speaks had any creative or editorial control. Like imagine a gay person starring in a film as a gay character where fucking Mike Pence was consulted by the screenwriter and director.

          • TossedAccount [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            They've had a history of emphasizing the perspectives of parents while downplaying the perspectives of autistic people, especially autistic adults. They're also known to have taken a disease approach to the spectrum, their goals being to minimize symptoms (autistic behavior) by teaching aspie children how to pass as neurotypical and eventually to eradicate autism like the condition is cancer or AIDS. They've promoted the use of the puzzle-piece iconography (again, privileging the parents' perspective of solving the riddle of communicating with their neurodivergent children), including the variation of a jigsaw pattern on a ribbon (which again leans into the "autism is a disease like AIDS or cancer" approach to autism "advocacy"). It's comparable to pathologizing transness or taking a truscum approach of curing gender dysphoria while ignoring other forms of transness, or pathologizing homosexuality as a paraphilia.

            • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              The puzzle piece is a symbol that neurotypicals made up to represent autistic people.

              I'm not a puzzle. I'm not something that needs to be solved.

            • TimeCubeEvangelist [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              emphasizing the perspectives of parents

              if fascism begins in the family, why would they feel the need for eugenics? Parenthood must logically be a bourgeois slaveowner type relation,

              • TossedAccount [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                The eugenics would probably come in the form of aborting fetuses suspected of being born with autism, and using CRISPR genome-editing tech (when that's further along in development) to turn autistic kids neurotypical, rather than something more obviously genocidal like shoving them into camps or sterilizing them.

                Actually now that I think of it, some of them probably do want forced sterilization of autistic people. At the very least autistic people have been caught in the same net as other groups considered "mentally unfit" or failing to sufficiently conform to societal norms (groups which originally included Black and Latina women) and thus sterilized. CW for extremely racist/eugenicist shit that actually happened in California:

                http://www.autismpolicyblog.com/2017/04/buck-v-bell.html

                http://www.autismpolicyblog.com/2018/04/eugenics-and-forced-sterilization.html

          • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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            3 years ago

            not OP but gonna jump in cuz i hate them

            Theyr'e essentially an NGO grift for people who want to control autistic ppl. no autistic people on their board and spends most of their money and time on sketch shit like being anti-vax or promoting shock therapy for autistic people.

            https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/AutismSpeaksFlyer2020.pdf

            https://autisticempath.com/whats-wrong-with-autism-speaks/

          • TossedAccount [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Meanwhile there's a somewhat better org, the Autistic Self Advocacy Network, which instead emphasizes the voices and perspectives of autistic people and is more in line with an LGBTQ+ sort of approach to serving the needs of autistic people. They prefer the generally better rainbow iconography.

          • TossedAccount [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Assuming either of these men is autistic (not out of the question; a surprising amount of young lumpen online chuds call themselves "autists" as a result of their hyperfixations), they might be in a self-hating "sunken place" position where they take the propaganda of orgs like Autism Speaks as more or less correct (or think because they're "high-functioning" they're "one of the good ones") and are therefore more likely to tolerate the soft eugenics of other groups considered "deviant" for the good of society.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              They're not autistic, it's just that the post brought up gay people who might potentially work in a movie with Pence as an advisor.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Oh it was a big part of the grift. "Violent antifa fascists beat up poor gay Asian man".

          • TossedAccount [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            People used to compare me to him when I was a math nerd in undergrad and it was frustrating. Typically including the sort of people my undergrad friends (who were all also varying degrees of math nerd at the time but also counterintuitively much cooler than I was and definitely fucked) and I would interact with tutoring math.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Idk plenty of people legit like Sheldon, unlike whatever the fuck this is.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      WHO WOULD EVER THINK THAT CRUSHING A CHILD IS THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM! HOW WOULD THINK SUFFOCATING THEM WOULD CALM THEM DOWN!

      • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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        3 years ago

        The logic is probably more about just preventing further self-injury than "calming them down", but the point about massive risk of inflicting injury on them yourself is the crucial part.

        In any case yeah there really oughta be lawsuits for promoting "techniques" like this.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I always wonder how tense must be to write and play characters with some neurodivergence (¿is that the correct term?) to make it respectfully you know.

    Turns out you can just don't give a shit, huh...

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    3 years ago

    I read more to see how very bad it is https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/jan/27/sias-film-music-misrepresents-autistic-people-it-could-also-do-us-damage

    TW: even more ableism

    spoiler

    Ziegler’s performance as Music, however, is the standout disaster, serving us “Autism” the Rain Man way, all tics and whooping and capital ‘A’ Acting. She affects a honking, hiccuping gait occasionally punctuated by phrases – “make your eggs”, “braid your hair” – delivered in a voice that lands somewhere between a school bully mimicking Meryl Streep’s low register and a dog waking up from dental surgery.

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          3 years ago

          I think it's like the regular guillotine but the blade is matte so it doesn't flash in the sunlight when it drops, and maybe there's also some attempt at soundproofing when it hits the bottom

        • Randomdog [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Fake charity. It's like Susan G Komen but for autism.

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            3 years ago

            It's like Susan G Komen foundation if the little work they did was actively harmful to people with breast cancer and they ignored all the people with breast cancer that called them out and asked them to consult with people that had breast cancer

      • domhnall [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        One of the extra fucked up things I’ve heard about the movie is that the titular character is less of a protagonist and more of a vehicle for Kate Hudson’s character’s redemption arc.

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Wtf, I had never heard of this movie, but from reading this thread how the fuck did this dogshit even get green lit?? Who the fuck is this movie for?

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    so not only did she refuse to have a neurodivergent actress, she did this shit? Jesus....

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I knew the film would be bad, but Christ I didn't expect it to be this bad. Also everyone take that CW seriously, it's worse than you expect, like way worse.