I'm going to post a couple links to sources for the next couple days to hopefully start a conversation in this space! These will fall in the area of Fat Studies and there's some norms you should be aware of:

  • "fat" is taken as a neutral descriptor, think of it as reclaiming the word.
  • "obese" arbitrarily medicalises fatness and Others fat people

I'm a cis man and I have (had) body image issues (in the past)

https://humanparts.medium.com/my-journey-toward-radical-body-positivity-3412796df8ff


I'm queer and fat

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yeefpijtl4s7orv/Flaunting%20Fat%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0Sex%20with%20the%20Lights%20On.pdf?dl=0


I'm queer and not fat

https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/fat-liberation-is-totally-queer


The others don't apply to me and/or I only have the energy/time to read one source

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/


:sankara-salute:

👉 Part 2 is up

👉 Part 3 is up

  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    So I've experienced something of a mirror image of this challenge. I'm (very) skinny, and always have been (as in, I'm 6 feet tall and it was a triumphant moment about two months ago when I discovered I had gotten my weight back up to 135 pounds, from a nadir of just under 120). And I've had body-image issues since early elementary school, because being really skinny isn't manly; strength and muscle are.

    My greatest struggle with maintaining weight began for me when I started working full-time after college. I hated the way my job soaked up so much of my time (and I didn't even ever have to work overtime), so I tended not to bother with lunch. And after a while, I started feeling really nauseous every morning, to the point that I couldn't eat the bowl of cereal at breakfast that had, until then, been a mainstay of my eating habits (I would eat a few bites and find myself totally unable to continue eating; funnily enough, there's a disgustingly soggy bowl of frosted mini-wheats sitting on my desk next to me as I type this). So I started working from home basically all the time, and eventually began seeking medical help for the problem.

    Unfortunately, the medical industry's concern about eating habits is almost entirely focused on getting people to lose weight; there are almost no resources out there for those of us who want to gain it, and particularly those who are experiencing a reduction in appetite, as in my case (most of the weight-gain advice I've found argues for regularly consuming massive amounts of protein via some kind of shake, which has always been beyond my ability to do--I have a naturally low appetite to begin with, and when I overstuff myself I risk vomiting).

    Worse, when I went in for medical tests or imaging procedures, nurses and technicians would always tell me how healthy I was, which was extremely grating when I was there to get an endoscopy to try and find out why the hell I have such trouble eating, and when my APRN had told me I technically qualified as "anorexic" by BMI despite the fact that I have never intentionally starved myself. I still have to renew my FMLA every year so that I have legal protection for taking sick time when I have a bad episode of nausea, and I don't really know what I've been doing differently lately (the weight gain has been pretty much entirely during the pandemic), other than eating more regularly and virtually never engaging in much physical activity anymore. And still, I've gained no more than 15 or so pounds in almost an entire year of this! (And I seem to have stalled out in the mid-130s, I might add--today my weight is 133.8 pounds before eating much of anything.)

    (In case you're wondering, I do not have a diagnosis worth a damn; I'm considered to have "irritable bowel syndrome" because I have a ton of gas and other bowel issues, but that's just a catch-all for "the intestines aren't working correctly and we don't know why.")

    Even before all of this happened, I had always wished I could weigh more, so I've generally always felt like people's attitudes toward fat people were unfair--if I can't seem to gain weight, then how the hell could it possibly be easy to go the other direction?

    Not sure exactly what I'm trying to say here, but as someone with some knowledge of biology I'd like to attack a specific argument: CICO is complete fucking bullshit. Your body is not a dumb machine that ignores its own internal state and mindlessly tacks on pounds when you eat too much (nor one that mindlessly consumes fat when it doesn't get enough calories). The signaling mechanisms of the cell lean heavily on a particular molecule, cyclic AMP (adenosine monophosphate). Those of you who know a thing or two about biology may know of ATP (adenosine triphosphate), commonly called the "energy currency of the cell." Consuming an ATP consists of removing a phosphate from the molecule, converting it to ADP (adenosine diphosphate); consuming an ADP converts it to (you guessed it) cyclic AMP. A ton of cell signaling cascades act in response to the presence of high concentrations of cyclic AMP, because there are a ton of functions that kick on when the cell is low on energy (most of which center on shifting to alternative sources of energy and the conservation of cellular energy). Given all that, why in the name of whatever deity you do or don't worship would you think that the body as a whole just idiotically absorbs whatever energy you dump into it, when there's a perfectly effective method for dumping useless energy, commonly known as 'shitting'?

    No, the truth is, our food in this country is absolute garbage, and it's completely fucking up our bodies' internal regulatory mechanisms in ways that we can't begin to fathom as yet, and that is why people have so much trouble modifying their weight. It's completely useless to badger people about "counting calories" or "exercising more" (or, conversely, simply eating more) when in truth their metabolisms are completely out of whack thanks to our awful capitalist food system.

    • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
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      Thank you for your great take! I especially appreciate your biological take down of CICO as I can also personally attest to it not being that easy.

      Growing up , my family was very forceful about me eating all my vegetables etc. My coping strategy for this was to drink A Lot of liquids with dinner and then be "full", and I think this contributed to me being really skinny. Additionally I think I have a fair bit of Orthorexia. After leaving home I managed to gain some muscle in the gym, but I really struggle to eat more than my caloric intake bc of how interrelated food is with your brain. Like I can eat a lot one day, but then on the following days my body will subtly decrease my sense of hunger and I just won't be interested in food.

      I've especially noticed how different my response to eating is to fatter people who describe wolfing down fast food and finding so much joy (orgasmic) from eating. I do enjoy meals, but I never feel like a bottomless pit or crave a fast food. Hunger also manifests completely differently in me. When I'm hungry, I hardly notice it (except for cold extremities) but I become super focused and easily angered. I hear fat people talk about a need to eat, which I can't relate to at all — right now it's more my rational brain that tells me that logically I should eat soon because that is good for me. I don't think I'm "broken", but I do think that we never really talk about how much variety there can be in the response to food and hunger

      It is convenient that my body type is societally Good for men, but it just doesn't bring me joy. And I agree that it is so hard to find resources, support etc for going the other way.

    • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      You might want to look into fecal transplant therapy as well, if youre having general gut issues. Its relatively new but has shown promising results for numerous issues.

    • Exorcistbreakdancing [she/her]
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      I second the person who said elimination diet in case you’re allergic to something common. Also raw ginger, turmeric, and kombucha are my go-to for stomach issues/nausea. Turmeric is magic. Raw ginger and saltines go well together. Also peppermint oil (a drop in some olive oil in your palm, lick palm), or a spoonful of apple cider vinegar (which I hate the taste so only when I’m desperate.) Sorry if you’ve heard this all before! I also deal with a lot of nausea and not wanting to eat because of it, which makes it worse etc

      Edit: Also, maybe weed?

      • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Hey, thanks for this! I'll try those out (my usual go-to is cold water, which works wonders for me). And I smoke plenty of weed, lol, but thanks for that suggestion too. I'll probably do an elimination diet at some point, but ngl, that seems like a ton of work lol.