NOTES ON CHINA-UIGHUR CONTROVERSIES AN EVER INCREASING COLLECTION OF NOTES, LINKS, SOURCES, & OBSERVATIONS CREATED, COLLECTED, AND COMPILED BY @BLACKSKINLENIN FIRST MADE A PUBLIC DOCUMENT ON 7/3/20 FIRST UPDATED ON 8/8/20 Surprise, the United States Government and it’s running d...
Surprise, the United States Government and it’s running dogs have lied to you about a foreign enemy. Let’s separate the facts from the fiction. The following text below is a summary of the conclusions I’ve come to in my research concerning recent discussions of China & their Uighur Muslim population. Please note that I didn’t come into this document with the presupposition that the US was already lying, I actually started the other way around (I presumed what the US narrative was to be true and sought to prove why it was true to internet “tankies”, until I realized that it wasn’t):
That China is not running a “cultural genocide” against Uighur muslim population or anything of the sort
That while the moral underpinnings of the actions taken by the Chinese government are murky and should be discussed, there is more nuance to things than what is generally discussed
That due to historical context, Leftists, especially Western Leftists, should be more wary of dominant media narratives pedaled to them by the news
That the Chinese government is actively taking measures to aid the Uighur population that don’t line up with the dominant western narrative
That while not doing what the Western world accuses it of doing, the Chinese government deserves scrutiny for the way they are currently handling their issues, even if they aren’t actively committing a genocide against a minority group or have been perfect. As leftists we must always uphold the tradition of “a ruthless criticism of all that exists”
It should be noted that this document is an amalgamation of the writings of hundreds of other authors and myself. The purpose of this document isn’t 100% originality, but rather about building a truthful account of what is happening in China. This file is an ever expanding work in progress, which will be updated when more information is released. And most importantly of all, thank you for reading, Comrade
This is a list of the theses of the book not a summary of their defense. You can't expect even genuinely sympathetic people to need to read a literal fucking book on any, let alone every, point of USA agitprop holy fuck. For people who constantly talk about the necessity of a vanguard party you really are just shit at it. Also for the love of god double space it.
Oh come on, obviously no one is forcing anyone. My point was that you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't basically already agree with that treatise if you make no effort to present it in an easily digestible form (i.e. not a 300+ page book--which it would be if it was double spaced). For what it's worth I more or less agree with the theses and I just swear alot.
That doesnt explain anything. The only thing that says is that "the concentration camp shit is just USA propaganda" it doesnt even try to refute any claims of oppression
Ah yes, the ol' "If you don't read this random 160-page google doc you aren't fit to engage with the topic."
Reminds me of the rightoids who say random-ass things, and when pressed, source a random 120-min. lecture on YT from some Jordan Peterson-adjacent type and accuse others of not engaging.
Do better, or at minimum familiarize yourself with the topic so you can defend it on its own merits.
is China an us puppet? the doc doesnt seem to acknowledge any of the accusations regarding cultural cleansing nor try to rebunk them. like all of you idiots i dont care about reading this shit. If you want to make a nice propaganda document you should actually try inserting some concrete facts in it that contradict the imperialist narrative
tldr?
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Surprise, the United States Government and it’s running dogs have lied to you about a foreign enemy. Let’s separate the facts from the fiction. The following text below is a summary of the conclusions I’ve come to in my research concerning recent discussions of China & their Uighur Muslim population. Please note that I didn’t come into this document with the presupposition that the US was already lying, I actually started the other way around (I presumed what the US narrative was to be true and sought to prove why it was true to internet “tankies”, until I realized that it wasn’t):
That China is not running a “cultural genocide” against Uighur muslim population or anything of the sort
That while the moral underpinnings of the actions taken by the Chinese government are murky and should be discussed, there is more nuance to things than what is generally discussed
That due to historical context, Leftists, especially Western Leftists, should be more wary of dominant media narratives pedaled to them by the news
That the Chinese government is actively taking measures to aid the Uighur population that don’t line up with the dominant western narrative
That while not doing what the Western world accuses it of doing, the Chinese government deserves scrutiny for the way they are currently handling their issues, even if they aren’t actively committing a genocide against a minority group or have been perfect. As leftists we must always uphold the tradition of “a ruthless criticism of all that exists”
It should be noted that this document is an amalgamation of the writings of hundreds of other authors and myself. The purpose of this document isn’t 100% originality, but rather about building a truthful account of what is happening in China. This file is an ever expanding work in progress, which will be updated when more information is released. And most importantly of all, thank you for reading, Comrade
This is a list of the theses of the book not a summary of their defense. You can't expect even genuinely sympathetic people to need to read a literal fucking book on any, let alone every, point of USA agitprop holy fuck. For people who constantly talk about the necessity of a vanguard party you really are just shit at it. Also for the love of god double space it.
Yo, what’s with the hostility? Read it or don’t, no one is forcing you to.
Oh come on, obviously no one is forcing anyone. My point was that you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't basically already agree with that treatise if you make no effort to present it in an easily digestible form (i.e. not a 300+ page book--which it would be if it was double spaced). For what it's worth I more or less agree with the theses and I just swear alot.
The audience is clearly for people who want to learn more. That’s it.
That doesnt explain anything. The only thing that says is that "the concentration camp shit is just USA propaganda" it doesnt even try to refute any claims of oppression
I mean, the document does, but you'd have to go through it.
the quick not e from the author is 8 pages long fuck that
The author's note is literally about people like you lmao
Is there a reason why you can't skim through the document to get to the allegations of oppression and just read that?
Because they aren't interested in reading things that don't affirm their believes. So it's useless arguing with them imho.
Ah yes, the ol' "If you don't read this random 160-page google doc you aren't fit to engage with the topic."
Reminds me of the rightoids who say random-ass things, and when pressed, source a random 120-min. lecture on YT from some Jordan Peterson-adjacent type and accuse others of not engaging.
Do better, or at minimum familiarize yourself with the topic so you can defend it on its own merits.
It takes zero time to look up whatever you’re interested in this work. You don’t even have to read the whole thing.
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is China an us puppet? the doc doesnt seem to acknowledge any of the accusations regarding cultural cleansing nor try to rebunk them. like all of you idiots i dont care about reading this shit. If you want to make a nice propaganda document you should actually try inserting some concrete facts in it that contradict the imperialist narrative
So you didn't read it, but you know what it says?
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It's all capitalist imperialist pigs lying about why they want to destroy china.
im not going to fucking read this shit theres no reason to make this shit so incomprehensible. Im asking for the the keypoints and sources
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No it fucking doesnt