ted talk over

  • Tankie_super_PAC [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Reuters is one of the ‘news’ sources that have pushed the Uighur story the most. At this point I don’t believe anything Reuters has to say about China. This story might be part of it’s propaganda efforts.

  • Kerenskyeet [any]
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    3 years ago

    Presuming this isn’t being editorialized somehow, yea this is extremely disgraceful. And this guy is number two for their foreign affairs ministry? Disgusting way to speak about people alleging abuse, does not reflect China well at all. If the party had any sense, he’d be demoted because he’s obviously not fit to hold that position if he thinks this is appropriate or warranted, or even remotely productive.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Presuming this isn’t being editorialized somehow

      Why presume this given what we know about how this story has been propagandized?

      • Kerenskyeet [any]
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        3 years ago

        Given the nature of this bit of news, and how hardline I am against the narrative anyway, I try to consider information as it comes out with at least a bit of good faith. Reuters would have to be straight up lying if this isn’t what the guy was doing. To me it doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility, so I’m not gonna come out the door and say “this is most definitely made up” when I have no reason to. Ofc, the very real potential of intentional poor translation is always there.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Reuters would have to be straight up lying

          I mean, how would you characterize mainstream American reporting on Xinjiang?

          The right approach with unreliable sources isn't to treat new reporting from them with good faith -- they've done nothing to earn that, and quite a lot to show it's undeserved. The approach is to be agnostic on the new reporting until you get better information.

          • Kerenskyeet [any]
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            3 years ago

            I largely agree with you. I’m mostly considering this on terms of a party official getting out of line in his approach in combating the narrative. You can be right and still communicate things in a poor and irresponsible way, this applies to a wide range of potential situations. This kind of conversation, of course, is only suitable among comrades as they can grasp the nuances of the situation.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "A Xinjiang government official said of another witness last month: “Everyone knows about her inferior character. She’s lazy and likes comfort, her private life is chaotic, her neighbours say that she committed adultery while in China.”"

      I mean if that's an actual true quote then that's extremely bad optics, huge misstep from the CPC. I realize it might be fabricated or heavily mistranslated though.

  • PowerUser [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    OP, what do you mean by slut shaming and what do you mean when you say "higher women"?

    I find it challenging to believe allegations of mass rape when they are accompanied by claims of mass sterilisations, associated with data that is supposed to prove mass sterilisations are occurring by pointing to an increase in the sterilisation rate to 250 per 100,000 people.

    I would welcome an investigation if it were possible, but I don't see how it could be in the current climate, particularly given the West or the CPC would allege bias in the results.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Western media loves to trot out the "Official twitter account called Uighur women baby making machines" shit, a phrase that literally every western NGO and media has used about how women are/have been treated in the Middle East in the past.