• LangdonAlger [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I came here to comment "this post brought to you by Finkelstein gang"

  • hazefoley [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If God was real he would've let the German Soviets win in the 10s

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
      hexagon
      MA
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      4 years ago

      Counter point: If God wasn't real, Stalin would've died from getting ran over by a car, or died from smallpox when he was a child, letting the Nazis win.

  • gammison [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    There's no evidence Jews were enslaved in Egypt btw lol (at least in any way that corroborates the biblical account, the transition Judaism was going through from polytheism to monotheism at that time is super interesting though and the Babylonian confinement has a lot more stuff going on with it ). Jesus also didn't do shit to stop the Romans from stomping every Judean uprising also.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides

    By the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men

    Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will

    Shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness

    For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children

    And I will strike down upon thee

    With great vengeance and furious anger

    Those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers

    And you will know my name is the Lord

    When I lay my vengeance upon thee

    --Stalin 25:17

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The only true-to-source Christianity if w'ere being honest. No way you can justify being a Christian capitalist.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It's also quite possibly the only way socialism could come to be in America.

  • camaron28 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This twit is funnier because Stalin (if i remember correctly, maybe i'm wrong) was pro-Israel.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      That was the standard leftist stance during the formation of Israel, since a whole heck of a lot of immigrants into Israel were socialist Jews who kept getting targeting in pogroms in eastern Europe. So it wasn't a silly idea to assume Israel would either have a lot of socialist influence or simply become socialist due to the demographics immigrating there. A lot of Soviet Jews moved there as well, many of whom fought in WW2.

      The assumption about socialist influence in Israel ended up being more or less correct, by the way, it just didn't last and didn't have enough impact as everyone assumed it would, plus a whole lot of the so-called socialists ended up also being in favor of burning down the homes of Arab people. The Workers' Party of Israel (or Mapai), the largest left-leaning party in Israel, held a third of the seats in the Knesset until the 1970s. The other leftist party, the United Workers Party, (Mapam) was much smaller, more Marxist, but also incredibly loud and influential. They were on the surface in favor of Israeli-Arab coexistence, but I believe some of their senior leadership were also higher level officials in the Israeli armed forces, who were the very people in charge of burning down people's homes.

      There was also a lot of talk about the formation of Israel necessarily leading to a decline of British influence in the middle east, so some talked about Israel in anti-colonial terms.

      Time is funny. What must have seemed like an incredibly nuanced position back then has become clearly mistaken now. I can only wonder what types of things we believe now that will seem horrifyingly wrong in 80 years.

      Also I'm not terribly informed on a lot of this stuff. Sorry if I made any assumptions or said anything wrong. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I remember reading that there was also a split in the zionist movement in the early Soviet Union because while zionism always contained elements that were more domineering and supremacist, a large part of zionism was a simple desire for safety from the institutional violence that Jews had been subjected to over the centuries, and so the movement split into those who still wanted an explicitly Jewish state of their own and those who believed that the secular Soviet Union was sanctuary enough.

        But I don't remember any more details than that, nor do I know if what I read was accurate to begin with.