• Saint [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't even understand the point of these. They seem like terrible propaganda

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Oh, their actual favourite thing is "This bad thing is actually good." I'm just fucking waiting on a piece about how the US will outperform China because Covid deaths were the old and weak.

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      doesn't matter what it says. just so long as everywhere you look there is an article that says china bad. even if you think it is bullshit. our brains accept noises we hear enough. In time we will forget that the article was stupid, but will remember that we saw 2 million articles about how china is bad. Your brain will then conclude china is sus. and because we have better things to do, we just listen to our brains about it.

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      How the fuck is this article even trying to frame not dying of cancer as bad?

      • BookOfTheBread [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        only an authoritarian dictatorship would limit their peoples right to have cancer

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If we see enough articles about china bad, we can't remember the context and eventually we start to think china is bad. It's called the mere exposure effect. It's bad folks. If only there was some firewall that could block out fake news like this. that would be great.

    • abdul [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The mere exposure effect is the opposite of that lmao. We like things as they become more familiar to us and forget the bad stuff.

        • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Oh, that might be a better example here. I am going to look into that. That you.

      • Tupamaros [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Really? I don't feel any better about HIV than when I first heard about it.

        • abdul [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I’m willing to bet you think it’s less of a problem or no longer the death sentence it was once treated as though. Having said that, it’s social psychology, so it’s all bullshit anyway.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This has been done (though using a mixture of directional wifi "Milo Tin" antennas and standard routers rather than cables) by a number of groups since the 80s. A useful protest comms technique.

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    When the Bad Guys do bad, it's trumpeted from the rooftops. When the Bad Guys do good, it's because they have some ulterior motive. When there's no other explanation, the good deed is ignored and buried.

  • jilgangga [doe/deer]
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    4 years ago

    Rhetorically, all these headlines read like "Medicare For All deprives you of CHOICE." Which is to show, again, just how deeply propagandized the US is.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The most important freedoms are the freedom to be poor and the freedom to die of preventable illness.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Its the same energy as the US trying to criticize the failings of universal Healthcare abroad. Maybe the critiques are technically valid, but coming from someone whose not even trying.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The next 5 year plan directly addresses this. They were focusing heavily on extreme poverty in that last one, and the next one is focused on development of infrastructure and transportation in the rural areas that were missed in the poverty alleviation of the last plan.

          Broadly outlined in late October 2020, the new plan aims at China becoming a "moderately developed" economy by 2035 with a per capita GDP of about US$30,000, nearly three times the 2020 level. It anticipates future growth as largely based on domestic consumption of goods and services, and aims to reduce disparities between urban and rural living standards.

          From the wiki, there are more detailed outlines available if you want info on more specific policies.

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Isn't that because China had eliminated extreme poverty, and not impoverishment as a whole? Like, living under one dollar per day or something

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah, their definition of extreme poverty is actually more broad than the UN's right? Like $2/day or something instead of $1 (only slightly, but that distinction actually includes like several million more people at least)

          • NonWonderDog [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I don’t have the numbers, but I think it was the opposite. The UN has "extreme poverty" as a greater wage, but China’s definition also includes minimum standards of health care or something. I remember it not being easily comparable so I didn’t care.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah, you're right. Their definition is roughly equivalent to $1.70 vs $1.90 for the World Bank.

              Wages don't account for free housing or public transport though, the use value of access to high speed rail is light-years higher than an extra 20¢/day. Also, average wages are closer to $4/day anyways so the point is moot.

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Fair point, but it's still there and if you're able to get a job somewhere else you'll likely be able to use it. It's not like $1.70/day is the ceiling.

                  A lot of China's jobs programs revolve around using trains to get people from rural areas into cities where jobs pay better.