Some recent critiques levied at DSA's organizational strategies peddle in an aesthetic-radicalism that risks distracting the working-class from organizing itself into a disciplined political force.
Beyond that sentence and some of the Bernie/DSA stuff it is pretty much true, as in that is an actual phenomenon that is happening and it isn't super helpful.
Yeah I can read the article and try and deduce my own points are about what they’re trying to say, but that’s not how arguments work. A clear point must be made to be argued for or against
Did you read it past that sentence? It's about the phenomenon of people being "radicalised" through the internet thinking they can just skip over everything and become the One True Leftist by ignoring and sneering at everyone else, or calling for stuff that seems radical to them without properly judging the situation. The result is that they might as well not have been radicalised because they're not working with anyone and are not somehow translating their beliefs into meaningful action. Don't you know people like that?
I'm sorry, from the start of this conversation you don't appear to care too engage. I have no clue what kind of response you were expecting tbh, I don't think any kind of response would make a difference. The article is right there, you can engage or you can pretend to not understand it.
In the contemporary US left, this phrase refers broadly to the amalgamation of anti-capitalists whose entire ideological motivation and self-conception is that they are “to the left” of XYZ, typically DSA. While there are organizations that participate in this sort of branding, it is most commonly done on an individual level. We can disagree on whether ultraleftist is a helpful term, seeing as it is best defined by an “I know it when I see it” approach, but I think the title applies to enough of a grouping that it is worthwhile. Terminally online, constantly accusing others of being sheepdogs or sellouts, and rarely working with others to expand the socialist movement through mass action are some of their calling cards. Their actions speak to wanting to be King of the Smallest Kingdom.
“We can disagree on whether ultraleftist is a helpful term, seeing as it is best defined by an “I know it when I see it” approach.”
This article is incoherent at best.
Beyond that sentence and some of the Bernie/DSA stuff it is pretty much true, as in that is an actual phenomenon that is happening and it isn't super helpful.
Yeah I can read the article and try and deduce my own points are about what they’re trying to say, but that’s not how arguments work. A clear point must be made to be argued for or against
It's not unclear. The central point is pretty straight forward.
Which is?
Did you read it past that sentence? It's about the phenomenon of people being "radicalised" through the internet thinking they can just skip over everything and become the One True Leftist by ignoring and sneering at everyone else, or calling for stuff that seems radical to them without properly judging the situation. The result is that they might as well not have been radicalised because they're not working with anyone and are not somehow translating their beliefs into meaningful action. Don't you know people like that?
Yes I know condescending assholes who don’t have conversation in good faith and assume shit about people their talking to.
I'm sorry, from the start of this conversation you don't appear to care too engage. I have no clue what kind of response you were expecting tbh, I don't think any kind of response would make a difference. The article is right there, you can engage or you can pretend to not understand it.
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why are you like this, what the hell?
Why do I mock people who talk down to me?
If you stopped this cringy passive-aggressive shtick it would help you to communicate better.
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What
Makes plenty of sense in context.