What a fucking breath of fresh air. Never watched it because I thought it would be lame since there's never any fighting. But fuck me it stands in stark contrast to all other media. It shows a future I actually want to live in. Everything else is some dystopian, violence ridden, dim look on humanity. Don't get me wrong I love a good dystopia but wow.

Fuck now I'm a nerd send help.

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Isn't it? It's actually an optimistic show which is so rare in sci-fi. Everything is so grimdark and I enjoy grimdark but a little socialist optimism is nice. Which is why JJ Abbrams needs to suffer a few decades of back-breaking hard labor under the whip for his destruction of that, for turning it into another ridiculous, explosions in space, grim-dark, sci hollow, piece of consumerist garbage. I seethe with rage whenever I see that guy's name, he had to destroy it and he is a bastard. I suppose it was inevitable given that it's owned by a capitalist media empire that obviously realized soon enough that they couldn't be funding space socialism futurism with their money.

    Watch order: TNG > TOS > DS9. Voyager is fash (it's watchable but not great), Enterprise is garbage, everything newer I don't know about and don't care about given the direction it's taken since the "reboot".

    • ThrewItAwa1 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I actually quite like Voyager, was my fav for years until I recently rewatched DS9 and realised how fucking good it was. A lot of Voyager was just memes and episodes for the sake of it, whereas most of DS9 was magnificent.

      Same opinions re. the reboot stuff, don't care to watch it since it's not made for me, it's made to milk a previous brand for all its worth

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I like DS9 best, even though it's the darkest of the lot. Shows what happens once the Enterprise gives it's grand speeches and moves on. 1st season is garbage but the first season of everything but TOS is garbage.

      ENT is definitely utterly useless for most of its run, but gets really good half way through season 3. Apparently if they'd continued they were going to do the Romulan Wars and base it strongly off of Diane Duane's Rihannsu novels where the not-quite-yet Federation gets its ass handed to it by the space equivalent of a Technical swarm.

    • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'll defend Voyager. I've been watching it over the last few weeks and while there are a lot of trash episodes, I think it's more good than bad. It's basically TNG but with less likeable characters (the Doctor and Seven of Nine are good tho), an overarching plot that doesn't make much sense and wastes a lot of good plot threads, and a wildly inconsistent captain who occasionally does wildly immoral things with no real ramifications. Which sounds really bad but it still has plenty of really great episodes despite all that by virtue of how self-encapsulated they are. Also, both TOS and TNG have plenty of astonishingly bad episodes, so there really isn't a radical difference there.

      Definitely worth watching.