We have to do it. Some of us have to do it in different ways. Doing small things where you can is all well and good but literally none of us are making a single impact in capitalism by making different choices about how we're forced to participate in it. Focus on tearing it down together rather than picking apart individual choices because those individual choices still result in participating in capitalism.

  • J_Edbear_Hoover [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Lmaooooo this site has become a total joke if this kind of comment is being up voted. "Eating meat to own the libs" is the stupidest fucking thing I've read in a long time. Thanks for the laugh.

      • J_Edbear_Hoover [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Bullshit, it's accusing vegans of distracting from class consciousness because we're trying to end suffering.

        • danisth [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It's saying that vegan's accusing non-vegans of being bad leftists in distracting from class consciousness. Vegans being vegans to reduce animal suffering is obviously good, and I don't think that the comment insulated that it wasn't.

          • J_Edbear_Hoover [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            This comment is a perfect example of why people who can afford to exist without meat but choose not to are larping as leftists. Luxury communism is a myth, and to live in a truly classless world would require a reduction in standard of living for most westerners. People like you are incapable of making any type of sacrifice to the collective good. The benefits to a society consuming no animal products are innumerable; the lower healthcare costs and reduced environmental impact should be enough on their own for a society truly invested in the collective good. "Steak tastes good and I should be able to eat what I want" is literally the most liberal position you could have.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Between the shitty reactionary anti vegan arguments like the one above and vegans refusing to self crit after an indigenous person thought their 2011 ifunny tier bit was racist, it really is extremely embarrassing and a complete joke.

      • J_Edbear_Hoover [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I've long maintained that my food choices are my own and I have never shamed anyone else for theirs. I think that human life is paramount, but if you can afford enough healthy calories and protein without killing an animal, you should do so. As far as the spiritual beliefs of indigenous people; the spiritual beliefs of plenty of faiths are in contradiction to my values, am I supposed to sublimate my own strongly held beliefs?

        • BakaToTest [des/pair]
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          4 years ago

          Which indigenous person is saying they don't respect your right to your beliefs? Its the vegans yesterday and today that called them 'uneducated' and implied backwardness in their beliefs.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          The comment definitely wasn't aimed at you or anything, just a general comment on the state of the site in response. But as for the beliefs of indigenous people, the right to self determination and leaving them to practice their culture in peace is what I've always thought. They've had enough of other people telling them how to live their lives, and so long as nothing very reactionary is occurring, it's really no one else's business.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      You have too many tabs opened up with meat comments