this is not serious btw. i like probably half the movies listed. maybe it serious then idk

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'm not trying to bait or annoy people. Honestly just thought it was funny. I'm saving private ryan for god's sake

      edit: it's almost as if many of these big films are universally loved by people. it doesn't mean they are actually bad or you should feel bad for enjoying them. i'm actually using it as a list to rewatch some classics i haven't seenin awhille

    • Saint [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      But aren't the descriptions about how the viewer interprets the movie rather than criticisms of the movie itself?

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      He's the viewpoint character, which is enough to make some people assume you're supposed to like and admire him.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I had a fucking English teacher mark my definitions of protagonist and antagonist wrong cause of this. Luckily I was 14 and totally not having that and got that inconsequential point back

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              That's pretty much the whole story. My definitions were right and his were wrong, I dug up a lot of sources and examples cause they aren't that hard to come by hauled them to his desk and got my two points. It really didn't matter at all but there's no way I could let it slide

              • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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                3 years ago

                You can be the hero but I'm going to tell this story from his perspective when I make the movie.

                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  Can I play myself? I'm 30 now so just the right age to play a 14 year old in a movie

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            It's weird because both words come from Greek except here no one calls the bad guy an "antagonist", and protagonist just means the main person. Antagonist means "competitor", but not specifically in terms of a movie or play or whatever, just generally "competitor". Not even "adversary" in general. I'm not sure who (when, why) decided it is specific to cinema and literature and that it means "bad guy" and protagonist means "good guy" but it really annoys me when I see it because it clashes against what I know the words being used for, and also it creates a game of broken phone because some other countries also don't use the words like that. Also "main characters" and "secondary characters" is a much less silly categorization than "good guys" and "bad guys".

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      well goddamn, i'm not giving you hexbear gold right now but this is pretty fucking good. briefly, what would be your second tag if you don't mind

  • wantonviolins [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    the Twin Peaks one is trying to be an actual criticism instead of a white dude perspective and it’s “I don’t get it so it’s lolsorandumbXD”

    bruh Twin Peaks has an extremely coherent narrative and the visuals don’t get surreal until The Return, and even then they’re mostly grounded in common symbolism instead of going into extreme esoterica

    if you bounce that hard off of Twin Peaks you would struggle to perceive much less understand actual outsider art or anything genuinely weird

    I realize I’ve been baited into responding to this but come on

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Also, Twin Peaks absolutely has a white dude critique. The entire show is just all the white dudes coming together and doing rape and genocide but abstractly.

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      And even all the esoteric stuff can be ignored as "lol, black lodge things, amiright??" You don't even need to pay attention to the "logistics" or the "plotholes", the narrative literally says it's magic.

    • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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      3 years ago

      To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Twin Peaks. The symbolism is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of occult lore most of the plot arcs will go over a typical viewer's head.

      • wantonviolins [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I know you’re doing a bit but my whole point was that you don’t need a high IQ or a grasp of occult lore to understand it, it’s very accessible. It’s a soap opera that aired on a major network, not some avant garde film studies project made with the express purpose of being as inscrutable as possible.

    • StLangoustine [any]
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      3 years ago

      if you bounce that hard off of Twin Peaks you would struggle to perceive much less understand actual outsider art or anything genuinely weird

      I dunno, I love a lot of weird and surreal stuff but for some reason Lynch just doesn't do anything for me, outside maybe Eraserhead.

    • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      My friends made me watch Eraserhead in high school and I hated it so much that I don’t think I’ll ever give David Lynch another chance.

      I’ve heard Twin Peaks is a lot more straightforward, but I just really don’t want to check it out. Also Lynch is a shitty person.

      • PouncySilverkitten [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Eraserhead is well-made, but a deeply unpleasant viewing experience. I would say that I like that movie, as much as you can like it, and I’d be fine with never watching it again.

        Dune is fun, though.

  • puppyflat [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    currently I'm doing a long term bit where I never moralize any entertainment, I just continually piss people off by saying Heisenberg is a badass and it's cool when he uses science and his wife sucks. Taxi driver? just a based fella taking girls to a porno, hell yeah.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I finish every screening of any movie with a loud, gutteral: "DUDES ROCK!" Into the rapidly vacating theater.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I'm Arnold in T2 because T-1000 is literally an allegory for the LAPD

  • mutantIke [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    when da fuck did the internet become terrible at recognizing bait

  • garbology [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Being forcibly made aware that a specific subset of people watch Taxi Driver and Falling Down and get the message "dudes rock" and not "movie violence is propaganda you are not a hero" is bumming me out.

  • buh [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Where’s “comic book movies”

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I was about to get so angry when I saw sopranos on here until I realised it’s about lame whit guys misinterpretations of these films

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm "well obviously clint eastwood was the good guy, it even says so in the title duh, what do you mean he was a total dipshit?"