Stop Asian hate can be used to combat yellow peril and China bad without watering down police abolition and systemic racism in our justice system. Libs would love to combine all of these things into one to neutralize it
Like the "rooftop koreans" during the Rodney King riots, white reactionaries will gladly use violence against Asian minorities as an excuse to bolster anti-black sentiment and strengthen the police.
Since Black Lives Matter is specifically about violence caused by over-policing, and the Asian hate crimes were caused by citizens, there's an opportunity to use a phrase like Asian Lives Matter as a bad faith counterpoint to BLM. "BLM wants fewer police? Well police would have stopped this anti-asian violence. Don't Asian Lives Matter too?"
I don't know if that's necessarily such a serious problem, since I doubt any of these hashtags are going to gain that much traction, but it is something to keep in mind.
“BLM wants fewer police? Well police would have stopped this anti-asian violence. Don’t Asian Lives Matter too?”
I think this might be the take that comes out on top unfortunately.
The easy counter is "oh, like how the police stopped all those other mass shooters?"
. “BLM wants fewer police? Well police would have stopped this anti-asian violence. Don’t Asian Lives Matter too?”
Bad faith actors are going to try to act in bad faith regardless, so I don't see that it makes much sense to structure what we do and say around them.
The basic bad faith reasoning in the example "works" no matter what slogans we adopt.
Nah, figuring out what bad faith reactionaries will want to say in advance and structuring what we say to make it harder for them to say it is good messaging.
Same concept as the "inoculation" pretty much everyone teaches in organizer training.
You can go overboard with it but it's definitely something you should be considering if you're trying to coordinate a social media campaign.
The pessimist in me foresees this whole movement bogging down into semantics and liberal tone policing until people forget and the opportunity to make any real progress is passed.
Yeah I think there will be another good push this summer and then it will die down to a simmer for a decade or so until shit really hits the fan. We're Russia 1906 now, there's going to be the illusion of good things happening for a bit until they pull the rug out from under us
Russia 1906
Don't we need to have forced significant-but-insufficient reforms before we can claim a 1905 parallel?
You are a serf. Bitch, you live in Alsace. You are a peasant. You need to give your fuckin' lord the grain.
I personally doubt we'll make it that many months until some other shithead shoots up a Mosque or a black church or a gay night club, or a Latin American event, etc, and the news cycle rotates to covering that.
Oh the rise of our very own version of the black hundreds is definitely part of this process. Leftist organizing is also going to get much more dangerous. Stay safe out there
Libs are gonna lazily slogan their way directly into "all lives matter"
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I don't understand what point they're trying to make?
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It's a gosh dang hashtag. Go outside for half an hour.
Yep, and the OP says "we" can walk and chew gum, so this checks out.
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i think the use of BLM (or the template X Lives Matter) being for only black issues) is based on many things, but the main issues seem to be that BLM is primarily about black people being murdered by the state (although its also been stretched to address all of black struggle), which is not what is happening to asian people right now.
BLM or X Lives Matter being a template for only blacks is also partially based on the reasoning that black issues, black struggle, black thought and AAVE are often co-opted by every other race, while every other race is still incredibly anti black, causing people to be a little more protective over the phrase. X lives matter has been so co-opted by everyone to the point that all lives matter or white lives matter is a far right rallying cry and now "x lives matter" is now one of the first things that often gets brought up and debated when BLM is discussed
It doesnt help that other groups fighting for equality lately have literally used the X lives matter template to racistly play oppression olympic games / showing that their care for black people and black issues are conditional
i understand that stuff like blue lives matter is already bastardizing the BLM phrase and movement in a way asian lives matter never could, but that doesnt mean non black X lives matter isnt without its problems that are specific to black people's relations with other minority races aside from white supremacy (altho its all white supremacy at the end of the day) //like at some protest in support of the right wing backed harvard suit for anti asian bias an east asian dude was holding up a sign saying "my life matters too" shit is cringy, disrespectful and contributes to black distrust
like at some protest in support of the right wing backed harvard suit for anti asian bias an east asian dude was holding up a sign saying “my life matters too” shit is cringy, disrespectful and contributes to black distrust
Holy shit that’s disgusting. Reminds me of the azn identity sub I had the displeasure of learning existed a few years ago
i'm not convinced a radical, or potentially radical movement is "neutralized" by more people identifying with it. the problem isn't that people won't have the proper context to understand BLM as a necessarily abolitionist movement, it's that it's a hashtag slogan that's already crawling with liberal self-appointed movement leaders. the wording of a "competing" (?) racial justice slogan isn't what determines whether people have cross-racial solidarity in their toolbox.
