• Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    and about 92% of them are NATO leftists who hate every AES country and think people like Vaush sound intelligent.

    • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I think you're cutting yourself off at the knees if you assume that. Obviously I doubt the majority are theory-hardened communists, but this obviously represents a popular swell of public opinion despite our inability to act so far on anything as "the left" in the US

      • iByteABit [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        I wonder how many of the revolutionary proletarians during the rise of communism knew their shit. Not many I guess, but they had people they followed that did, like Lenin, even if they didn't completely understand the theory or fully agreed with it.

        Then again people back then didn't have a century of propaganda to deal with..

        • GaveUp [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          It's pretty obvious almost none of them. The Chinese civil war picked up millions of conrades along the way and there is absolutely 0 chance most, or even a significant portion of them spent weeks or months cramming a bunch of theory in their free time while working for their feudal/war lords before defecting

          A lot of them just heard that the communists were promising them their own land, guaranteed nourishment for their entire family, and how much better their followers were being treated

      • Kaplya
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        1 year ago

        I love talking politics with people and I have talked to A LOT of libs. Most agree that we need to tax the corporations more, the capitalists have gotten too greedy, we should spend more of the defense budget on healthcare, infrastructure etc.

        Not a single one of them thinks that revolution should be anywhere on the table. And when some of them finally admit that China is doing something good, it’s only because China is not socialist, it is a capitalist country! That’s why it is able to raise the living standards of its people because they have adopted some of our capitalist policies! But unlike us, they’re totalitarians!

        • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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          1 year ago

          They're not dedicated communists, but neither are they dedicated radlibs. If streamers are your yardstick, Vaush has 240k followers on twitter. Hasan has 1.4 million.

      • operacion_ogro [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        "Actually existing socialism," countries where socialism is the dominant mode of production, such as Cuba.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        1 year ago

        Actual existing socialism, usually a reference for states that were or are ran by a communist party that was or is attempting to build towards a socialist society with historical and material proof of that.