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  • JonathanKington [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    mean girls is a white af movie that white boys love made by kind of white girl libs tina fey

    still a good movie tho

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The problem with white boy movies is that white boys miss the point of those films over the aesthetics. Most war films are screaming at you that war is bad but white boys go "whoa cool machine gun, awesome explosions!" This is really evident in mobster films like the godfather or pulp fiction, the message of the film is that these are bad people, please don't live like them but white boys go "whoa cool masculinity!"

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Mh, that feels slightly ahistoric. Might be true(ish) today, but the history of self organized groups parallel to the state were a worker thing. Sure, some mafia groups were wildly opposed to communism, on the other hand there was a lot of strong support towards Italian communist parties around WW1, also from people affiliated with "mob"-structures.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            but the history of self organized groups parallel to the state were a worker thing.

            What does "self organised" mean here? The mob in Italy wasn't a "worker thing", it was a feudal remnant.

            Also I forgot to say that what you said about mafia supporting communists in Italy was a horrible take, the mafia murdered lots of leftists implementing reforms post WWII.

            • JuneFall [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Also I forgot to say that what you said about mafia supporting communists in Italy was a horrible take, the mafia murdered lots of leftists implementing reforms post WWII.

              You are right that there was a lot of reactionary communist murder by the mafia, but according to Acemoglu and others, the mafia adjacent groups were not just murdering communists, some built an important backbone of the communist structures and were responsible for the successes. I guess the question is whether the people petit bourgeoisie or pretty poor.

              I am also only talking between roughly 1917 and 1922.

              • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                I guess the question is whether the people petit bourgeoisie or pretty poor.

                It doesn't really matter what the "rank and file" were, the leadership was basically big feudal families who managed to retain control over territories via illegal means as Italy progressed to capitalism, and made tons of money by smuggling stuff and killing people. The Sicilian mafia was nuts, significantly worse than the mafia in the US. Now, the mafia in the US was also a horrible thing, but it was not merely a repeat of the Sicilian Cosa Nostra. A big part of what initially kept it together was Italians being a marginalised group of immigrants when they first came to the US. Additionally, the mafia in the US laid lower than the Sicilian mafia, because the second was trying to fight and outright replace the state in the territories they controlled, the first was trying to keep the state far from its business. So the mafia in the US had a code and abstained from using explosives, killing women and children (in general), tried to avoid collateral casualties, etc. The Sicilian mafia was more like "let's detonate 200kg of TNT to kill this one person in a highway, who gives a fuck".

          • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Well I wouldn't know because I'm not a mob expert. When I think of the mob I think of petite bourgeoisie lumpen guys from New Jersey that have a McMansion like the sopranos and hustles that net them huge cashflows. I guess mafia stuff like gang stuff could be leftist, I mean lumpen are still proletariat I suppose. I try not to be too hard on say like black gangs hustling to survive and protect themselves but I don't have much love for mob goons from the east coast that get into that line of work solely for the profit.

            • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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              4 years ago

              The mob is pretty much a bunch of petit-bourgeoise lording over lumpens who have nowhere to go, they've been reactionary for most of their existence with the tiniest bit of "it was for oppressed minorities to organize" justification from the early days.

              • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                with the tiniest bit of “it was for oppressed minorities to organize” justification from the early days.

                And that only applies to the US.

  • Janked [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Dunkirk sucked and my family just kept making fun of him for shitting in that hole and kept calling him "The Shitter" in Spanish lmao.

  • Freethenip [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Incredibly dumb post that can only have been posted by a white person because literally every single person in mean girls is white except like 2 irrelevant characters and Dunkirk is one of the most mind numbingly boring movies of all time.

  • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Dunkirk was cool and all but I ended up pretty bored by the end, cant remember what happened. They all found Old Captian Dunkirk's gold, right?

  • deadtoddler420 [any]
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    4 years ago

    Almost every post complaining about white men taste is written by a white person

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I’m sorry but have you seen the scene in saving private Ryan where mark whalberg ages into an old man? Very touching