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  • HarryLime [any]
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    4 years ago

    Dude, you're not going to radicalize your dad. No dad wants to be radicalized. They don't want to have their fucking kid teach them ideology. I wouldn't. If my kid tried that on me I'd be like "no fuck you, I teach YOU shit, now go away."

    Do you want to be like sixty years old and be talking to your friends and you tell them you're a communist now, and when they ask why, you're like "oh, my twentysomething year old kid told me about it?" No, that would be utterly humiliating. That's why your dad does not want you changing his political beliefs.

    • dead [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This is your brain on patriarchy. This entire post is premised on the ideology that the father knows everything and is the supreme ruler of the family.

      Believing that you can't learn things from your offspring is extremely insecure. I dream of a day that I can learn from my offspring. Each generation should be more class conscious and revolutionary than the previous.

      You would not even have to tell your friends that your kid taught you something. Read theory and then tell your friends that you read a book. Reading books is far less embarrassing than telling your friends that you formed your opinion based on a video you watched of another boomer ranting from their car on facebook.

      • HarryLime [any]
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        4 years ago

        This is your brain on patriarchy. This entire post is premised on the ideology that the father knows everything and is the supreme ruler of the family.

        You probably won't radicalize your mother for the same reason. Happy?

        • spectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I think he's referring to OP's dad's brain as having patriarchy brainworms. Your take on the situation is a valid interpretation.

          It doesnt necessarily say anything about patriarchy brainworms in your brain, but since we are all immersed in this shitty culture from birth, we all have them to some extent.

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    No shit, parents are like the final boss of radicalizing people, unless they have already been leftists in the past. It's probably easier to radicalize a complete fucking stranger who is someone else's parent. It's just the way many parents often are. The best case scenario is that they are somehow reminded of being cool in their youth. If they weren't it's not gonna happen.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i got my dad (a maga chud) to agree with ranked choice voting and automatic voter registration because i called his bluff hard when he talked about how america is a "democracy" and it's absurdly undemocratic to allow the two-party system to control everything and the fact that people can easily be disenfranchised simply by moving houses during voting season. that's the full extent of it all though, he is still and always will be a dumbass chud

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        it's fine, he is a source of silly entertainment for my brother and i because of how nuclear his takes are sometimes lol. I just can't care seriously anymore, some things just be like that

    • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      My dad is also a maga chud and I got him to hate Elon Musk, that's about all I've been able to do, everything else is a lost cause. I'll take what I can get I guess.

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        small victories, the war never ends though lol. i don't get too worked up about it like i use to anymore. almost any time i try to bring something up i'm almost immediately exhausted with the discussion cause almost everything he says is dumbass reactionary shit.

  • Hoyt [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    When I argue with my lib dad I just feel like I'm arguing against the news. And while I can debunk shit, I'm not talking to him 9 hours a day like MSNBC is

    • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      About the only antidote for this is to get them to read Manufacturing Consent or Inventing Reality. Hell, get them to listen to a few episodes of Citations Needed if they do podcasts. Have to get them critiquing media as they watch it to counteract what you're describing.

  • JmWave [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    My pops is a liberal too but I still slowly try to show him the light. So far it doesn't seem to be working lol. He once said Mexico was not capitalist ha.

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I managed it. It helps that he was a leftist when he was younger.

  • discontinuuity [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It might take decades, but keep at it. My dad voted for Reagan and just recently expressed interest in learning more about Marxism.

      • carbohydra [des/pair]
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        4 years ago

        A few decades is better than never, but also pick your battles. There are probably other people in your life who have a more open mindset.

        • Pirate [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          It's better than never but we aren't trying to save his soul or something so yeah there are better battles indeed.

      • discontinuuity [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I should've said years not decades. I've only been a marxist for a few years myself

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In my mind you're just showing him Assad must go memes all day and hoping it works

  • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    YOU cant radicalize anyone. Only their material circumstances coupled with proper clearheaded analysis can. You only have control of half that equation.