Yeah. Only fuck the police. One deed that isn't garbage doesn't justify the tons of bullshit they do.
Upvoting yourself is bourgeoise decadence and I'll not have it xD
Both sides think the other side is the one LARPing and they’re both probably right.
I mean in that case who cares, right? If we can't even focus enough on our main goal then why not just LARP. I live in a fairly large population area and there's far fewer people doing anything materially beneficial for their community than Twitter/Chapo/Reddit population distribution should suggest, so I imagine you're pretty correct anyway.
First, I want to say that I see folks complaining about people moving like thousands of dollars
I don't know about those people, my opinion is that spending any money on stocks at all is a waste of time, resources, and most likely a bunch of research that could be better spent on better things. I don't spend enough time on here to know how exactly prevalent it is, but it's all over the front page.
No! It’s incredibly divisive.
Being a Leftist is divisive... It's believing in building a plurality of solidarity among working people such that we can overthrow the current system and replace it with a better one. If that's not divisive I'm not sure I know what is haha
Where does it end?
I don't think most leftists are super unreasonable. I think if you spend extra money at the grocery store or on video games no one is gonna be very mad. If you're spending thousands on video games and spending your time on that rather than mutual aid, that's a different story. The key is moderation. But participation in the bourgeoisie system that is the stock market..? Why? What material benefit does that give us that spending that time and those resources on something else wouldn't? Putting $100 into the stock market is $100 you could use to set up or help maintain a community garden. Below a_blanqui_slate said both sides think the other is LARPing, which is fine as long as the work is getting done it doesn't matter what people think, but we're pretty disorganized here on the Left. I help run a Leftist group on my local Nextdoor and it only has 19 members. I put up flyers and barely get responses at all. There's 12k+ people on chapo, that alone should be enough for a few hundred people in every state to be able to get a movement going. To me, this sort of getting into the weeds of the stock market is just a waste of time that distracts from the goal.
It’s judgmental, holier-than-thou nonsense.
What I'm about to say is going to, most likely, sound exactly like that. I'm gonna say it anyway because I'm going through a manic episode and got drunk to cope.
We should be judgemental. If all 12k+ people here on chapo worked on local organizing/mutual aid/making and throwing seed bombs of edible plants we could make a huge difference. The LARPing accusation should be leveled more often. Maybe it'll motivate people to go out and help. But if it doesn't and it turns people away that weren't doing anything anyway? Why do we care about those people in an online space?
And.... we shouldn't? I'm sorry, I don't understand these takes. Are we LARPing this shit? Like are we not trying to tear down the disgusting capitalist system in place and build a better society out of the ruins? If you're not, that's fine I guess, you'll be someone else to work on for those that are trying to make the world a better place.
Jesus fucking christ lmfao
This is like.... Blatantly ignoring the entire point of the post. This isn't a purity test. This is a "what do 'Leftists' spend their time/money on?" test.
If your energy is spent on agitating over... ahem "stonks," and that's where you're choosing to put your money and time...
My only point is that this energy and money has better outlets that don't contribute to a zero-sum system that ultimately hurts the working class. As a mod said, some people are planning on spending the profits on local mutual aid, and I hope they do.
My feeling is still that this is largely not the best way to spend our time. It's exciting, sure, and it could help down the line, but if you have the wherewithal to figure out stocks I think the energy would be better spent liberating food from grocery stores—many of them simply throw away their food that's close to expiring and will let people take it if you talk to the right person. My local FNB has the schedule figured out where they can get anywhere from $50 to $1000 worth of food every week this way. It's extremely variable, and from what I know is not easy to get the process started, but the benefits are much larger than spending time following stocks. It's just not as exciting or glamorous.
I'm in no position to tell people what to do or what not to do, and if there are plans for mutual aid with the profits, anything is better than nothing. From my point of view though it's just participation in a zero sum system where a working class person is always hurt at the end of the day.
Many local mutual aid orgs will still take food donations, either food rescued from a grocery store (some you can call and ask if they are throwing out expired food, like bread, and they'll give it to you), food you cook yourself (most have a verification process for this, and a food-type req), or simply monetary donations. Outside of food, if you have spare clothes there are places that will distribute to the homeless in the area, or any plastic grocery bags can often be repurposed into blankets and pillows for the homeless (my aunt does this and I give her all my spares). There's a lot of creativity out there for how you can help without going face to face!
Alternatively you can agitate locally. Join your local Nextdoor and spread agitprop, put up flyers, do some more... direct action... if you live near a relevant location, etc. All of these are things you can do alone and without coming into contact with people! Be creative! Show care for your community!
This is a really fair take, however I would suggest seeing what kinds of safety measures your local orgs are taking! Personally I've found that I can make meals in my kitchen to donate and I can do so without coming into contact with anyone directly. Definitely check what you can do locally before writing off mutual aid :left-unity-3:
Yeah I see people dropping a bunch of money into the stocks and I'm thinking like.... My local Food Not Bombs could use an extra $50 to make sure the houseless in my area don't starve to death. But go off leftist 👑. Surely the stock market needs your money more than any mutual aid in your area.
Much as I like Vietnam I'm actually surprised it's not China.
Hello! I'm in that Discord since I was pretty uncomfortable with a lot of the discourse here, and that seemed like a safe alternative to getting super involved here (though I am trying to get a little involved, haha).
That said, the context of the message that TC linked made it extremely clear what was going on! We all knew what we were reacting to. TC (and others) has been advocating heavily for their fellow trans comrades and we all appreciate it, since it can get really tiresome dealing with people that are "just asking questions" with no eye towards learning or improving their behavior. That's not to say that a majority of the people here are like that, but it seems to be those kinds of people are interacting with the trans content here most often. Either previously with downvotes, or now with sealion-y questioning campaigns.
If you're at all interested in educating yourself, I suggest checking out Zoe Baker on YouTube! She has a lot of good content and she's a fellow trans comrade. Specifically I would start with these videos: On gender politics specifically | On IdPol, though I prefer 'intersectionality'
Idk, from a vexillological perspective it's still a banger of a design. It's well-stylized, nothing too complex–outside of maybe the Capitol building in the background, the colors are complementary (and there's not too many colors), and the symbolism (while trash) is made clear and concise–even having 4 stars reprinting the 4 people that died (I assume).
It sucks that whoever designed this is fash. I wanna find them and de-radicalize them...
I'm vegan, so personally I'll be composting the rich.
I worship Hekate and Selene 😊
I am literally the stereotype of the Witchy Anarchist Catgirl.... 😂😂
That sounds like an awesome idea! I'll definitely look into this tonight ☺️
stares in vegan