President Joe Biden says he “strongly, strongly” disagrees with the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down the use of affirmation action in college admissions.
no one is denying that, but its dishonest to not acknowledge the fact that this was only possible because of anti blackness in the asian american community. Asian americans are following the long tradition of american immigrants. Come to america, and treat black people here like subhuman garbage in order to benefit from white supremacy. every other non black community has done this to varying degrees except maybe native americans. the problem is anti black racism specifically.
One of the most disturbing ongoing demographic trends around where I live is non-black minorities expressing their hatred for black minorities to try to fit in better with white people.
They can try to do what every other European immigrant did in order to become white, but they will not succeed because of harsh geopolitical truths (the cold war with China and the resultant rise in Sinophobia). Going "I'm not Chinese I'm Korean" will not save them.
All valid points for sure but for me personally criticizing a community that I am not part of that also faces discrimination (even if to a different degree) is just not something I’m comfortable with. I never want to give ammo or affirmation to fascists.
thats fair, I just think we need to be able to call out anti black racism in non black poc groups if we can even begin to have our dream rainbow coalition. the wound cant heal till we take out the knife, and that first requires acknowledging the knife is there. and yes of course there is xenophobia problem in the black community but if you look the the reason (decades of anti blackness from other poc) the path to healing becomes clear. of course if you're from neither of the discussed communities feel free to defer to others.
I don't understand why they don't switch to zip code instead? Would basically be admissions gerrymandering at that point and we all know how that's allowed lol
As I understand it, the University of California system (where AA was abolished via a statewide vote in 2020) has basically switched to using economic background.
and its been awful https://edsource.org/2020/dropping-affirmative-action-had-huge-impact-on-californias-public-universities/642437
especially for latinos
Yeah. The main issue being that poverty and race, while correlated, aren't perfect reflections of each other.
Add on top of that the UC system's funding woes and increased focus on out-of-state (and international) students to fill funding gaps and there you go.
conservative asian americans are such spineless lapdogs of whiteness it's disgusting
they're capable of celebrating AA getting repealed because it only indirectly benefits them, as they're too cowardly to push for a direct, maximalist solution to the academic achievement discrepancy. this aversion to actual change is partially because they want in on that juicy juicy whiteness that derives from hating blacks and partially because actually demanding something from this country implies that their delusion of a bootstraps meritocratic america no longer holds any water.
boba liberals are even less complicated, they support AA because they see the good whites doing it and monkey see monkey do
dengism was a total wash for the chinese people, these diaspora types should never have been allowed to leave
Its asian people too, im disgusted by the rich chinese i know celebrating this. God forbid your kid goes to a non elite school scumbags
Some are undoubtedly wrong on this but Asian Americans face discrimination of their own
no one is denying that, but its dishonest to not acknowledge the fact that this was only possible because of anti blackness in the asian american community. Asian americans are following the long tradition of american immigrants. Come to america, and treat black people here like subhuman garbage in order to benefit from white supremacy. every other non black community has done this to varying degrees except maybe native americans. the problem is anti black racism specifically.
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One of the most disturbing ongoing demographic trends around where I live is non-black minorities expressing their hatred for black minorities to try to fit in better with white people.
Especially re: crime
How many Vincent Chins have to die before the Asian American community can take a hint?
They can try to do what every other European immigrant did in order to become white, but they will not succeed because of harsh geopolitical truths (the cold war with China and the resultant rise in Sinophobia). Going "I'm not Chinese I'm Korean" will not save them.
it won't, but most will try nonetheless.
LOL is that a thing? It's like when Americans in Europe lie and say they're Canadian to avoid being harassed? That's hilarious.
All valid points for sure but for me personally criticizing a community that I am not part of that also faces discrimination (even if to a different degree) is just not something I’m comfortable with. I never want to give ammo or affirmation to fascists.
Sort of like how we have
thats fair, I just think we need to be able to call out anti black racism in non black poc groups if we can even begin to have our dream rainbow coalition. the wound cant heal till we take out the knife, and that first requires acknowledging the knife is there. and yes of course there is xenophobia problem in the black community but if you look the the reason (decades of anti blackness from other poc) the path to healing becomes clear. of course if you're from neither of the discussed communities feel free to defer to others.
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I dont give a fuck about you if youre rich regardless of race.
I don't understand why they don't switch to zip code instead? Would basically be admissions gerrymandering at that point and we all know how that's allowed lol
Because it would mean the universities would have to openly admit that neoliberalism is a fraud
As I understand it, the University of California system (where AA was abolished via a statewide vote in 2020) has basically switched to using economic background.
and its been awful https://edsource.org/2020/dropping-affirmative-action-had-huge-impact-on-californias-public-universities/642437 especially for latinos
Yeah. The main issue being that poverty and race, while correlated, aren't perfect reflections of each other.
Add on top of that the UC system's funding woes and increased focus on out-of-state (and international) students to fill funding gaps and there you go.
conservative asian americans are such spineless lapdogs of whiteness it's disgusting
they're capable of celebrating AA getting repealed because it only indirectly benefits them, as they're too cowardly to push for a direct, maximalist solution to the academic achievement discrepancy. this aversion to actual change is partially because they want in on that juicy juicy whiteness that derives from hating blacks and partially because actually demanding something from this country implies that their delusion of a bootstraps meritocratic america no longer holds any water.
boba liberals are even less complicated, they support AA because they see the good whites doing it and monkey see monkey do
dengism was a total wash for the chinese people, these diaspora types should never have been allowed to leave