Discussion of slur reclaimation, I try to avoid reproducing slurs but I gotta here and there so CW slurs, 4ch discussion
Something I had kind of memoryholed until just recently is that the kids, broadly speaking I guess under-20s, are trying to take back the t-slur! I have seen it in a Black Dresses server (surely the most apt place for this to happen) and also on tumblr generally. I'm pretty sure people do it irl too.
This isn't new for the trans community, ofc; if you read the ultraclassic Gender Outlaw(Bornstein), or indeed Trans Liberation(Feinberg), you can catch people identifying by "he-she", "f*ggot", "transvestite" and many other quaint slurs, and generally I think I support the motion to reclaim the t-slur. It seems like /pol/ and the gang have had to move onto the etymologically poor, far less effective "tr**n" as a substitute, slur downgrade, which is what we wanna see.
I have permanent brainrot though, like some of those /lgbt/ brainworms might never come out. I've tried using it for myself and such once or twice, but it's just burned into my brain as a 4chan thing, and all I can remember is getting bullied by tripcodes and called AGP and stuff on /mtfg/. Classic.
It feels kind of lame, because I like "dyke" and "queer" for myself, and while I wouldn't use "f*ggot" for myself, it doesn't touch any nerves. But that stupid blue board ruined my mind, and I'll forever be unable to get with it, I guess.
Uh thoughts if you have em? Idk how old or young the average age skews here =) Curious for other people's takes on this specific instance of slur reclaimation.
Idk. I fucming hate the t-slur and the f-slur. Like, I have friends taking it back, and whatever. But it always makes my skin crawl no matter who says it. I get it in theory though but I just can't engage with that
I honestly have zero desire to try and reclaim. It would honestly take an immense amount of effort. It would also require being capable of gathering a significant amount of folks that are okay with being called such words. I, personally, think they should be lost to the sands of time and not rehabbed. They are despicable words with despicable histories. We should just find new words.
I see! I'm curious to know, do you feel this way about every single slur that's ever been or tried to be reclaimed? I find it hard to argue against your view as well, though, honestly.
I don’t know about any reclaimed slurs. I simply don’t. But as it is, a lot of slurs nowadays are fairly prevalent in highly public spaces. For many, it does and will still cause pretty significant trauma. I don’t really believe reclaiming slurs like t-girl or equivalents is really worth doing for this purpose. Why cause a lot of people mental harm simply because you want to use a word? It’s simply nonsense to me.
The hope is to take the bite away from it, remove its power and deprive queerphobes of a shitty thing to call us. Again I find it hard to disagree with you though. Much to think abt...
i don't like, regularly call myself the big t-slur, but i will for effect or if i think it's the only word that works in the situation. like when i had to explain the concept of reclaiming slurs to my mom or if i need to emphasize transphobia in a discussion. sometimes i'm with friends who are much bigger on reclaiming it and i can get into the mood then. i definitely don't think this is exclusively under-20 thing, most of the people i follow on tumblr doing this are at least that old (as am i) but it seems to skew young. i am also pro-reclaimation, but i totally get not feeling good about using it or hearing it.
I see, it def works for effect lol. Gotta be in "the mood" to use it... Also wow, you explained this concept to your mom? Wild, that's rad.
The fact that I thought it was mostly under-20s shows that I don't go outside enough :) Makes sense it skees younger though, older generations have a higher chance of feeling weird-bad things about it ✨ Maybe I'll get over the brainworms someday... Fwiw I can tolerate hearing it fine enough, exposure kinda gelps with that too, but saying it, Idk ever.
There was a time earlier in my transition where I had trouble with this. I think gaining confidence in myself and spending more time around queer people really solidified the thought that these words are ours. They my be weaponized by others, but taking them as our own is pretty based
I'm comfortable with every variant of r/tgcj t slur reclamation. If someone says they aren't, I'd just respect that what they're comfortable with.
Maybe I need to get out more lol, I love talking to fellow queer people online but irl I barely go outside It is something I'd like to work at, get a bit more comfy with, cause I do love the whole ethos of reclaiming slurs, making words ours. Very based!
thanks for your consideration! I had a similar experience to Ash and just never liked it. Too much of my childhood spent being called a f-- for it to ever feel good. Although I guess getting over that is part of the process of reclamation.
I think that's a good policy, something I've realised from this lil thread is I agree completely with both sides of the argument - I adore the idea of removing the power from these words, making them affirmative for US, but I also see that they have sour histories and have hurt many of our comrades. I'm kinda stuck, cognitively..
Discussion of slur reclaimation, I try to avoid reproducing slurs but I gotta here and there so CW slurs, 4ch discussion
Something I had kind of memoryholed until just recently is that the kids, broadly speaking I guess under-20s, are trying to take back the t-slur! I have seen it in a Black Dresses server (surely the most apt place for this to happen) and also on tumblr generally. I'm pretty sure people do it irl too.
This isn't new for the trans community, ofc; if you read the ultraclassic Gender Outlaw(Bornstein), or indeed Trans Liberation(Feinberg), you can catch people identifying by "he-she", "f*ggot", "transvestite" and many other quaint slurs, and generally I think I support the motion to reclaim the t-slur. It seems like /pol/ and the gang have had to move onto the etymologically poor, far less effective "tr**n" as a substitute, slur downgrade, which is what we wanna see.
I have permanent brainrot though, like some of those /lgbt/ brainworms might never come out. I've tried using it for myself and such once or twice, but it's just burned into my brain as a 4chan thing, and all I can remember is getting bullied by tripcodes and called AGP and stuff on /mtfg/. Classic.
It feels kind of lame, because I like "dyke" and "queer" for myself, and while I wouldn't use "f*ggot" for myself, it doesn't touch any nerves. But that stupid blue board ruined my mind, and I'll forever be unable to get with it, I guess.
Uh thoughts if you have em? Idk how old or young the average age skews here =) Curious for other people's takes on this specific instance of slur reclaimation.
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Idk. I fucming hate the t-slur and the f-slur. Like, I have friends taking it back, and whatever. But it always makes my skin crawl no matter who says it. I get it in theory though but I just can't engage with that
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At least I'm not alone, I suppose, can't-engage solidarity.
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I honestly have zero desire to try and reclaim. It would honestly take an immense amount of effort. It would also require being capable of gathering a significant amount of folks that are okay with being called such words. I, personally, think they should be lost to the sands of time and not rehabbed. They are despicable words with despicable histories. We should just find new words.
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I see! I'm curious to know, do you feel this way about every single slur that's ever been or tried to be reclaimed? I find it hard to argue against your view as well, though, honestly.
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I don’t know about any reclaimed slurs. I simply don’t. But as it is, a lot of slurs nowadays are fairly prevalent in highly public spaces. For many, it does and will still cause pretty significant trauma. I don’t really believe reclaiming slurs like t-girl or equivalents is really worth doing for this purpose. Why cause a lot of people mental harm simply because you want to use a word? It’s simply nonsense to me.
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The hope is to take the bite away from it, remove its power and deprive queerphobes of a shitty thing to call us. Again I find it hard to disagree with you though. Much to think abt...
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i don't like, regularly call myself the big t-slur, but i will for effect or if i think it's the only word that works in the situation. like when i had to explain the concept of reclaiming slurs to my mom or if i need to emphasize transphobia in a discussion. sometimes i'm with friends who are much bigger on reclaiming it and i can get into the mood then. i definitely don't think this is exclusively under-20 thing, most of the people i follow on tumblr doing this are at least that old (as am i) but it seems to skew young. i am also pro-reclaimation, but i totally get not feeling good about using it or hearing it.
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I see, it def works for effect lol. Gotta be in "the mood" to use it... Also wow, you explained this concept to your mom? Wild, that's rad.
The fact that I thought it was mostly under-20s shows that I don't go outside enough :) Makes sense it skees younger though, older generations have a higher chance of feeling weird-bad things about it ✨ Maybe I'll get over the brainworms someday... Fwiw I can tolerate hearing it fine enough, exposure kinda gelps with that too, but saying it, Idk ever.
queer slurs
There was a time earlier in my transition where I had trouble with this. I think gaining confidence in myself and spending more time around queer people really solidified the thought that these words are ours. They my be weaponized by others, but taking them as our own is pretty based
I'm comfortable with every variant of r/tgcj t slur reclamation. If someone says they aren't, I'd just respect that what they're comfortable with.
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Maybe I need to get out more lol, I love talking to fellow queer people online but irl I barely go outside
It is something I'd like to work at, get a bit more comfy with, cause I do love the whole ethos of reclaiming slurs, making words ours. Very based!
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thanks for your consideration! I had a similar experience to Ash and just never liked it. Too much of my childhood spent being called a f-- for it to ever feel good. Although I guess getting over that is part of the process of reclamation.
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I think that's a good policy, something I've realised from this lil thread is I agree completely with both sides of the argument - I adore the idea of removing the power from these words, making them affirmative for US, but I also see that they have sour histories and have hurt many of our comrades. I'm kinda stuck, cognitively..