Ah an unstoppable force (pronoun circles) meets an immovable object (trans women getting clocked and subsequently degendered), producing a new kind of Twitter discourse where everyone is fundamentally incapable of understanding each other.
Like something that's not being brought up here is: it's easier to pass in cisciety than to be stealth in a queer meetup. So are the cis men and women in your LGBT group being they/them'd and asked their pronouns, or is that being subconsciously reserved for the transgender men and women who get clocked? I think both sides of this debate are assuming different fundamentals here.
This is exactly it. Like, I have a good friend who gets gendered correctly pretty regularly in cishet spaces but just gets misgendered/degendered constantly in queer spaces. It's getting harder for me to get her to hang out with my in queer spaces as a result. Her presentation is not queer
I stopped going to a queer meetup where I used to live because I was constantly they/them’d despite everyone knowing I only used she/her. When I brought this up with the group, a couple of them told me, “nobody can be misgendered by neutral pronouns”
Ah an unstoppable force (pronoun circles) meets an immovable object (trans women getting clocked and subsequently degendered), producing a new kind of Twitter discourse where everyone is fundamentally incapable of understanding each other.
Like something that's not being brought up here is: it's easier to pass in cisciety than to be stealth in a queer meetup. So are the cis men and women in your LGBT group being they/them'd and asked their pronouns, or is that being subconsciously reserved for the transgender men and women who get clocked? I think both sides of this debate are assuming different fundamentals here.
People think I'm a cishet ally too much it drives me nuts. Why are my vibes so fucked
But I've also had the situation where the cissies pronoun circle so the removed (me) would spill the beans
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This is exactly it. Like, I have a good friend who gets gendered correctly pretty regularly in cishet spaces but just gets misgendered/degendered constantly in queer spaces. It's getting harder for me to get her to hang out with my in queer spaces as a result. Her presentation is not queer
I stopped going to a queer meetup where I used to live because I was constantly they/them’d despite everyone knowing I only used she/her. When I brought this up with the group, a couple of them told me, “nobody can be misgendered by neutral pronouns”
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