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  • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    r/Sino isn't a left sub though. There's a lot of commies there but it's a bit like r/aznidentity which also has the same takes and likes Andrew Yang.

    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      yeah, it's literally just a pro-China sub, not ML or anything. There are a lot of ways of being pro-China that can be reactionary and don't involve an ML worldview

      • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I didn't create the comm but my guess would be that r/china has a reputation for being anti-china sub filled with white westerners while r/sino does not and it's therefore more agreeable to use sino instead, especially for anti-imperialists. It's not an escape comm for the sub. The comm was created pretty early on and was meant for discussion on China. r/sino does not promote this site.

        Which leftist subs besides maybe r/genzedong (they don't promote r/sino on the sidebar) promote them?

        r/sino seems to act more like a China news sub where nationalists, libs, commies share their thoughts. There's only 1 reference to socialism on the sidebar. They don't claim to be a socialist sub.

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          1 year ago

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    • Windows97 [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I've seen takes like this in /r/aznidentity too unfortunately

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Since sectarianism seems to be fair game now.

    Did I miss another struggle session?

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Sino has a lot of Chinese nationalist types based in Hong Kong/Taiwan/Vietnam. It's weird to see them listed along other leftist boogeymen of Reddit. The consensus used to be that the nationalists were the type who liked China's growing political strength, but also wanted it to continue with Dengism. I've even seen some of them claim that China's lack of "handouts" is what allows it to prosper.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      they clearly dont know how the poverty alleviation works, they just give apartments away for free (some of these apartments looked way better than the ones ive lived in in america for 1200/mo...)

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Lots of people in Eastern Europe didn't understand either. When you've been living under a system for a couple generations and begin to take everything for granted, it's easy to fall prey to capitalist propaganda.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I’ve even seen some of them claim that China’s lack of “handouts” is what allows it to prosper.

      If you wanted to be devil's advocate maybe if you take "handouts" to mean the general social democratic compromises then those alone would not account for China's development either. A capitalist country giving people a check(like the US) is doing nothing but a concession to stop things from becoming much much worse.

      It makes sense then that China wouldn't need to be so superficial and instead focus on more broad changes to material conditions. You could even argue that if all that is stopping the people from revolting and collapse is a monthly check then you are definitely doing something wrong. So if you are really generous you could say the fact China isn't relying on direct money transfers to grow the economy is a good thing.

      Of course this is probably giving way too much benefit of the doubt to that argument, he could well be regurgitating the same Fox News talking points we already know about.

    • pluggd [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Too late. Those 4 perfectly crafted posts have altered my perception forever.

  • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If anything else that does show that Sino actualy has a lot of actual living in asia userbase that reflects the social conservativism and racism that still exists in big parts of china and southeast asia. Also when the entire reddit is sinophobic to the bone r/sino is bount to attract people that are just very patriotic/nationalist chinese people that are proud and love their country and are treated like bugs everywhere else in the website but dont have particularly socialist or progressive viewpoints

    • FarSeerFirelord [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think because r/sino and r/aznidentity have rhetorical overlap, it's more likely r/sino leans more towards the diaspora Chinese who like China. It's understandable that western diaspora Chinese might not be particularly progressive.

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly nationalism in the context of independence and liberation struggles against colonialism shouldn't be surprising.

      Many in the region sought to build strong western-style nation-states to resist the imperialists

  • SweetCheeks [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    but they also have based takes like this https://archive.is/8Kppf