socdem v demsoc twitter in a nutshell
Yeah, the criticism is like, "wow, even the progressives still cave to party influences, I guess electoralism is shit." They tell on themselves when they make the argument out to be as if she has some moral failing that makes her unworthy of the position. The position is garbage. It's not like the end game is some sort of functional America. It's not some sort of Vanguard States of America.
Didn't her handlers have to repeatedly reign her in for going off-script?
Reminder that like many CIA agents, one of these people came from Harvard Law.
Randomly tuned into the Bad Faith live stream last week and found her talking about jogging in Georgetown and about how she sympathizes with former Warren supporters who she says "are my peers."
Are there clowns on social media still relitigating this childish nonsense
Briahna Joy Gray Retweeted Force The Vote @ForceTheVoteM4A · May 2 Had the squad done #Forcethevote the Dems would currently be boxed in between their rhetoric claiming to believe that healthcare is a human right vs their actions voting against the bill that would make it so. #Forcethevote was and continues to be the correct strategy.
https://twitter.com/ForceTheVoteM4A/status/1388895857714417669
Boomer copy/paste job here but y'all get the picture.
When I pay the slightest attention to this shit I feel like Bryan Cranston in the "Jesse what the fuck are you talking about" meme
It was always much ado about very little and I think your reaction is the correct one, especially now that the opportunity has been past for months.
If Russiagate is QAnon for libs then Force The Vote is QAnon for comrades
Agreed.
the Dems would currently be boxed in between their rhetoric claiming to believe that healthcare is a human right vs their actions voting against the bill that would make it so
Imagine thinking this would matter. We have that video---a video!---of Biden telling Ady Barkan that he'd waive vaccine patents, and yet, shockingly, Biden has not done so!
Imagine thinking this would matter.
Imagine being a leftist and not believing that exacerbating the contradictions of capitalism trough struggle is a good thing.
That's a misreading of not only what I said, but also of what the effects of that vote will be. The contradictions are pretty dang exacerbated already! If you want to throw a sheet of paper onto a bonfire and say you've added heat, I won't stop you.
the effects of that vote will be
The effect of the vote would be a creation of momentum, and a glimmer of hope which is needed to move broad layers of the population in to action.
The contradictions are pretty dang exacerbated already!
The objective conditions, yes, but we also need the subjective conditions. Socialists are in the business of changing the working class from a class-in-itself, to a class-for-itself, as Marx writes. Which means that the emmiseration of the working class won't automatically lead to the change we want, but that we need to organise them in to a conscious political actor.
It's not to much to ask of elected socialists to play their part in that process.
elected socialists
There are none in the US congress. They're all socdems. Remember?
If that's your perspective, why are we arguing? You should be fine with #forcethevote criticizing them.
I simply think that many of the folks behind FTV are for whatever reason operating in bad faith, and so I criticize them for it.
simply think that many of the folks behind FTV are for whatever reason operating in bad faith
Why?
And by the way, even if that's true (which I haven't seen an indication for personally), their critique is still correct. The squad refuses to use their leverage, refuses to take up a leadership role in the social struggle (which they have to do, given their position) and are in material effect no different than general democrats accept for the fact that their refusal to act is demoralising for the left.
Because every time I hear them talk about this shit, the arguments are just bad and illogical.
Briahna Joy Gray is better than everyone on this awful fucking website
