Nah fuck that, you all know that clip could’ve been worded better but was HEAVILY put into a completely different context than the original. He’s literally addressed the fuck out of that clip and his stance on it is still that he regrets wording it the way he did but the initial context and introduction he did for the piece getting removed made it look like he was just being a shitlord. You can dislike Vaush cause you don’t like his format or edginess or whatever but don’t spread misleading shit. He’s also said the n-word but the context was that he was literally imitating trashy white dudes who say it randomly and how it’s just cringe as fuck. But I’ve seen people just post the cut 2 seconds and him laughing afterwards as evidence he’s secretly a huge racist or whatever.
You don’t have to like him but god damn the left spreading misinformation to take down their fastest rising creator right now is just... well actually exactly what leftists have been doing since the beginning so it’s completely unsurprising.
It doesn't matter what the context was, he called trans and lgbt people subhuman. The context does not matter beyond that. The context does not make him look better regardless lol.
He’s also said the n-word but the context was that he was literally imitating trashy white dudes who say it randomly and how it’s just cringe as fuck. But I’ve seen people just post the cut 2 seconds and him laughing afterwards as evidence he’s secretly a huge racist or whatever.
Yes saying the n-word regardless of the context is probably not a great idea then is it
He said the n word to out edge the chuds he was talking to and it didn't even fucking work. He was literally going for shock value as he mentioned in the comments. The conversation didn't even change because he said if, him saying it made literally zero difference so he shouldn't have done it to begin with.
No. A handful of people in the community take him completely out of context and misinterpret what he's saying, shit talk him constantly, and then everyone else just goes along with it so they don't get harassed.
I can kind of see that in some very limited cases. But he consistently has shit takes across the board. He sat there trying to bully shaun on twitter for not encouraging people to vote for joe biden enthusiastically enough lmao, that should tell you what he's about
That sort of online bickering seems inconsequential to me, so I tend not to pay attention to it too much, but that's of course a subjective opinion. He's been pretty consistent with his position on Joe - in that he's more susceptible to pressure from the left than Trump. That's a low bar of course, and if you don't buy the lesser evil argument, or are an accelerationist or whatever, it's not going to convince you. Bug none of us can predict the future or know for the certain the best way for us to reach that utopian socialist future, so I find the presence of such differences in perspective as to the best path forward to be understandable.
And at least from what I've seen the shit talk generally tends to be back and forth, rather than completely 1 sided.
We can't predict the future but we can learn from the past and voting Dems has done nothing for the leftist movement the last 100 years. They are just as staunchly anti communist as the right and the Dems don't even like Bernie. What makes you think they give a shit what tankies or anarkiddies have to say? We need to amplify a Succdem to show the working classes what is possible and use that to start a proper movement outside of electoralism. Biden is not that.
Dems has done nothing for the leftist movement the last 100 years.
I've gotten flack for this take before, but I kinda think The New Deal etc. was better than nothing. 50, 60, 70 years idk, you're right, but although things seem to be getting worse over time, they're still better in some ways than they were in like, 1900.
They are just as staunchly anti communist as the right and the Dems don’t even like Bernie
Very true.
What makes you think they give a shit what tankies or anarkiddies have to say?
I don't think they do. The bar is very very very low here, it's more just a well, maybe the secret police will be slightly more inclined to shoot us in the legs than the eye? It's fucking awful. But we're not solving the larger problems through electoralism.
We need to amplify a Succdem to show the working classes what is possible and use that to start a proper movement outside of electoralism. Biden is not that.
We need a proper movement, that is for damned sure. But we shouldn't be putting all our eggs in one basket, and hinge our dreams on the hope that the presence of a mythical political representative will create a massive upswell in support its own and bring about a revolution. Barring catastrophic events on an unimaginable scale, the fight for getting leftist ideology disseminated and accepted is going to take a while, and we'll need to remain in a society that, at the very least, allows us to exist. In my mind, it kind of comes down to whether increased social unrest from keeping Trump in charge can be capitalized upon to an extent that surpasses a potentially quicker erosion of norms regarding personal rights. Will Biden's mere presence give people the permission to stop paying attention to politics entirely again, or are the consequences of late stage capitalism at a point where political realities cannot be ignored? I don't have an answer to these questions, hence my current ambivalence towards the issue.
Did something happen?
He was caught on a livestream ranting about something like "degenerate queers" or"degenerate t*****s", the clip was on moremoretankiechapo
Holy shit, I knew that vaush sucks but I never would have expected him to sink to that level
Here are the clips:
https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1230667829537427462
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vwEbzqunxDY/
fuck this guy
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Holy shit.
he never said the t slur but the truth is somehow waaaay worse
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Why are we falling for this shit again?
Yes, some of the clips are deceptively cut together. But Vaush responded to that video and a good chunk of his response is lib shit.
https://youtu.be/QaD4xqkO0sE?t=594
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"These people are less than human to me." Seems very class based.
Nah fuck that, you all know that clip could’ve been worded better but was HEAVILY put into a completely different context than the original. He’s literally addressed the fuck out of that clip and his stance on it is still that he regrets wording it the way he did but the initial context and introduction he did for the piece getting removed made it look like he was just being a shitlord. You can dislike Vaush cause you don’t like his format or edginess or whatever but don’t spread misleading shit. He’s also said the n-word but the context was that he was literally imitating trashy white dudes who say it randomly and how it’s just cringe as fuck. But I’ve seen people just post the cut 2 seconds and him laughing afterwards as evidence he’s secretly a huge racist or whatever.
You don’t have to like him but god damn the left spreading misinformation to take down their fastest rising creator right now is just... well actually exactly what leftists have been doing since the beginning so it’s completely unsurprising.
No it's cool I can say the n-word, I was doing it in a woke way.
It doesn't matter what the context was, he called trans and lgbt people subhuman. The context does not matter beyond that. The context does not make him look better regardless lol.
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Yes saying the n-word regardless of the context is probably not a great idea then is it
Do you have his statements on it?
Here you go.
He said the n word to out edge the chuds he was talking to and it didn't even fucking work. He was literally going for shock value as he mentioned in the comments. The conversation didn't even change because he said if, him saying it made literally zero difference so he shouldn't have done it to begin with.
No. A handful of people in the community take him completely out of context and misinterpret what he's saying, shit talk him constantly, and then everyone else just goes along with it so they don't get harassed.
I can kind of see that in some very limited cases. But he consistently has shit takes across the board. He sat there trying to bully shaun on twitter for not encouraging people to vote for joe biden enthusiastically enough lmao, that should tell you what he's about
That sort of online bickering seems inconsequential to me, so I tend not to pay attention to it too much, but that's of course a subjective opinion. He's been pretty consistent with his position on Joe - in that he's more susceptible to pressure from the left than Trump. That's a low bar of course, and if you don't buy the lesser evil argument, or are an accelerationist or whatever, it's not going to convince you. Bug none of us can predict the future or know for the certain the best way for us to reach that utopian socialist future, so I find the presence of such differences in perspective as to the best path forward to be understandable.
And at least from what I've seen the shit talk generally tends to be back and forth, rather than completely 1 sided.
We can't predict the future but we can learn from the past and voting Dems has done nothing for the leftist movement the last 100 years. They are just as staunchly anti communist as the right and the Dems don't even like Bernie. What makes you think they give a shit what tankies or anarkiddies have to say? We need to amplify a Succdem to show the working classes what is possible and use that to start a proper movement outside of electoralism. Biden is not that.
I've gotten flack for this take before, but I kinda think The New Deal etc. was better than nothing. 50, 60, 70 years idk, you're right, but although things seem to be getting worse over time, they're still better in some ways than they were in like, 1900.
Very true.
I don't think they do. The bar is very very very low here, it's more just a well, maybe the secret police will be slightly more inclined to shoot us in the legs than the eye? It's fucking awful. But we're not solving the larger problems through electoralism.
We need a proper movement, that is for damned sure. But we shouldn't be putting all our eggs in one basket, and hinge our dreams on the hope that the presence of a mythical political representative will create a massive upswell in support its own and bring about a revolution. Barring catastrophic events on an unimaginable scale, the fight for getting leftist ideology disseminated and accepted is going to take a while, and we'll need to remain in a society that, at the very least, allows us to exist. In my mind, it kind of comes down to whether increased social unrest from keeping Trump in charge can be capitalized upon to an extent that surpasses a potentially quicker erosion of norms regarding personal rights. Will Biden's mere presence give people the permission to stop paying attention to politics entirely again, or are the consequences of late stage capitalism at a point where political realities cannot be ignored? I don't have an answer to these questions, hence my current ambivalence towards the issue.
I'm way too high to parse this shit.
Ironic. Seeing as I wrote this because I was way too high.