I always figured it was a huge part of it. Hell, I’m just partially Jewish and I still get shit from white nationalist for supposedly ‘taking their women’
The other 31% is the fear of White women having sex/dating/marrying Asian men
One could argue that it's all of it, one massive exercise in psycho-sexual projection. Shit like this is why I don't get down with porn anymore, especially bbc/cuckold shit, there's a racist angle in there that's aiming to dehumanize black men and play upon the fear of white men.
there’s a racist angle in there that’s aiming to dehumanize black men
I always figured the racist angle was the exact opposite.
As in, instead of "let's fight against our latent fear of BBCs", it becomes "let's just give into it instead, it feels good, here's your sissy hypno"
I mean that's in there but like the crux of that kind of porn is stripping a black man down to his penis and painting him as a barbarian that "takes" your woman.
Yeah. The BBC thing has a really nasty vibe of 19th century skull shape comparison.
Black men in porn can never just be hot guys doing hot guy stuff, their skin colour has to be made into a fetish and associated with dominant and violent characteristics.
This is so fucking true, I just wanna watch a guy and a gal enjoy each other's company, but the video is always some "BBC penetrates white woman!!11" and other much more racist nonsense. Black men in porn can never just have big cocks (like everyone else, most porn cocks are huge), they must have big black cocks. It is so insanely racist and is honestly white supremacist propaganda.
most porn comes down to "a barbarian taking a woman" tho
even if there's no racial angle
Yeah but again, like I said, there's a form of racism in BBC porn. Hell, black porn performers have talked about the racism they experience on the set.
I guess you could call it "positive dehumanization"
like the sexual equivalent of a model minority stereotype
I don't think there's anything positive about it. Model minority is a hurtful stereotype like all stereotypes are. In my opinion things like bbc porn aren't about representation of black performers, but rather exploitation. To me it all harkenss back to the mandingo trope which is wildly bad. Like I said, to me it's all about dehumanizing black men to being sex crazed walking penises.
It's not positive. The scary barbarian part is the important part in many cases.
"positive discrimination" in general isn't positive.
Then it isn't positive discrimination? Like it's not really a "wow black dudes are too cool" thing, it's "black dudes are scary sex animals with big dicks". It's just plain old discrimination.
well it's positive in the context of sex.
like I said, "positive discrimination" is never positive as a whole.
just like the "model minority" is positive in the context of how smart you're perceived (but negative as a whole)
Yeah but model minority is that you have a positive attribute compared to others, it's not the same as "scary sex monster". Like perhaps someone wants to be a scary sex monster but it isn't generally considered a good thing.
that you have a positive attribute compared to others
"big dick fucking machine" is more of a positive attribute in the context of sex.
I can see what you're trying to say. But really, there is nothing positive about being a model minority or being a big dick fucking machine in the context of porn when both are anti-black, racist, and sexist in their own unique ways.
It's really really negative in the context of being black. This idea comes from a white supremacist concept that black people will come and rape their white women. I think that may take priority over it being seem as a positive attributes for porn.
It's gross. And don't get me started on fetishizing women from other races, ala libertarians with asian women.
Where does this fetishization come from?
Orientalism I'd imagine, the enduring trope that asian women are model wives and whatnot. I'm sure this shit is reinforced by the media they consume like anime.
Not just anime, lots of movies and shows out there have reinforced the negative stereotype but yeah I'd imagine for younger people it was anime/video games.
somewhere in the mid 90s anime companies decided to mass-market to whitesville.
If you look at animes from the early 90s and before, they mostly had black hair, or coded Japanese looks (blue hair, dark brown hair, often tan skin etc)
A lot of us like to say that all right-wing politics is sexual pathologies and there is some truth to it.
The hierarchical relations between classes and races (and probably other hierarchies as well) seems to be underpinned by imaginations of the sexual promiscuity and animalistic sexual performance of those below you in the hierarchy. These imaginations are a weird mix of moral condemnation, hidden fascination and burning inferiority complexes.
Reaganites didn't just hate the black "welfare queen" for not being destitute enough. These women's imagined sexual promiscuity is also a part of the mythology. These fantasies, being exaggerated fiction, are much more interesting than the real and ordinary sex lives of reactionaries and it infuriates them to imagine "inferior" people having more fun than they have. This in turns provides emotional justification for oppressing them further, thereby restoring the balance to the hierarchy.
You see similar mechanisms at play with European chuds who often accuse anti-racist white women of secretly secretly wanting to be gang raped by Muslims, thereby revealing their own sexual insecurities about being outcompeted by "inferior" races who they imagine to be more virile and sexually powerful than they feel they are themselves.
Malcolm X hits on this a few times in his autobiography. It's more a symptom of white supremacy than a cause which at the end of the day is if you dehumanize people you can use them for unpaid labor and feel okay about it. Everything else is just bigot idpol to try to justify it.
This is an amazing post. Just thought you should know, the mix of shitposting and effortposts like this is why I come to this site.
It's not just WNs. In 2018 a leading “liberal” zionist can think – & say out loud, on nation-wide TV – that Jews & non-Jews who fall in love with one another & decide to spend their lives together are “an actual plague” which he hopes to find a “solution” for.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5295508,00.html
Thank you. Very interesting and also very sad and infuriating. I got about halfway into Black Marxism and I do intend to finish it soon. Also on my reading list are Black Reconstruction (thanks to Robinson's references), Black Against Empire, the Color of the Law, and some others that i don't recall right now. Can you suggest some further reading?
It's also why they cancelled Sessue Hayakawa, one of the leading bad-boy villains of the 1910s
It's kind of the other way around, the ore is the white supremacist society.
I often work on an assumption that most right-wing ideology can be summarized down to one of four things, with overlap: sexual anxiety, racism, mistaken anthropological beliefs, or sadism.
It's all material interest groups yeah, but that's how it often seems to manifest in their brains.
The supposed threat of sexual violence by black men against white women was one of the main weapons the Democratic Party used to persuade poor white southerners to vote against their own economic interests throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I’d say not much has changed.
Seeing a white Finnish woman with a black or brown Muslim husband, wearing a veil and with mixed kids produces such a raw visceral hatred in the average Finnish boomer/chud it is hard to describe, and definitely not just in men. If anything, it angers women even more.
In the case of the women there seems to be an additional reactionary feminist angle where women marrying into Islam are seen as essentially traitors to their gender
Other way around. They fear race mixing because they're white nationalists.
