damn it's almost like China have money and scientists and can work out how computer chips are made
In fact, they have so much money that they can acquire American scientists because they either face discrimination or receive no funding from Americans
but every good hamburger-eating ameroid knows that innovation only happens when you are owned by venture capitalists leveraging vaporware to inflate speculative bubbles with hype and funnel all cash into IP lawyers to crush any threats to market share.
americans slowly discovering the very real limits of their power
They really thought they were ordained by God to set up a technological force field forever ending progress in China
Extra funny detail is that Schneider was tweeting about US rules against American citizens not being allowed to work in the Chinese chip industry.
Whatever will China do without the contributions of the American chip-making Ubermensch (who, for some reason, have no high end chip foundries in America)?
Not like a large amount of the technology is scientifically developed and the breakthroughs are well documented in research papers or anything.
You see, scientific knowledge remains inert until it comes into contact with the C R E A T I V I T Y of the white man.
The science putty gets shaped into form through the white man's brainpan
It turns out the core needs the periphery a lot more than the periphery needs the core.
A child could have seen this coming.
Why are Americans so stupid???
Because white Americans think the universe bends towards having them come out on top of every circumstance. They never lose, and bad things don’t actually happen to them.
i tried to find a "chinese" phone a couple months ago.. you definitely cannot buy one from any remotely legit looking site you can search for. but hey this is the price of freedom, free markets, and freedom, and apple pie, and flags, and freedom and stuff.
I personally prefer OnePlus phones, and every phone I've gotten from them has been directly from their website. I haven't seen a "buy" button yet on Huawei's site
OnePlus
There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. How are they these days? I was considering one years and years ago until they announced a partnership with... Facebook, iirc?
I was considering one years and years ago until they announced a partnership with... Facebook, iirc?
I had not heard of that and wasn't able to find an article about it, do you have a link you could share?
There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. How are they these days?
OnePlus was bought by Oppo and doesn't do cool stuff it used to like giving custom ROM devs free devices. They also tried to make themselves the only repairers of OnePlus phones by making the MSM tool (hardware level device restore, meaning the phones are unbrickable) that a OnePlus employee leaked at one point no longer work on newer devices after OnePlus 9 Pro. Except the OnePlus community got the newer Oppo EDL DownloadTool working anyway, so same difference.
AFAIK, OnePlus still sells some of the best hardware you can get for Android phones.
AFAIK, OnePlus still sells some of the best hardware you can get for Android phones.
Unfortunately they make some baffling decisions from phone to phone, adding good features on one model and dropping it the next. I believe their current flagship doesn't have wireless charging, which I don't use often but is a nice feature to have, and pretty much standard on all but the most budget of brands
I can see why some people might like wireless charging, but because it degrades battery life, it's not something I'm interested in (I generally avoid wireless devices like mice and headphones, I'm not a fan of disposable electronics).
OTOH, OnePlus's warp charging is some of the fastest in the industry. Sure, it's not for everyone, but in terms of things OnePlus does do, it seems to do well.
I had a OnePlus. I want to say a One Plus 3. Phenomenal phone until it got software obsoleted. It ran perfectly for over four years then slooooowed more or less overnight.
Then I tried the Nord and returned three before giving up. Something funny with the screen. I can't remember what exactly. I think the 'black' gave off green and purple light. Not good enough on a device on which I constantly use dark mode to read. It wasn't as good as the 3; and when you get used to something it's hard to get used to something that's not as good.
Sure, the WiFi, Bluetooth, ram, and processor, etc, were probably 'better'. Call me old fashioned, but I don't gaf about that; I just want it to play music, display crisp text, let me take pictures (one camera is more than enough), and plug in my headphones with a 3.5mm jack.
I couldn't afford one of their flagships but I bet it would've been better than the Nord. Or was it Nord II? It might depend on what you use it for.
Still, I prefer OxygenOS to any other Android that I've used. I'd definitely consider one of their higher end phones. If you don't like it, I found the customer service to be really good for returns.
"But now the Chai knees will spy on you!"
-- most burgerlanders
Why do I care if the Chinese spy on me? They're not my government, and they're not likely to share.
That is a good question. Everytime I've asked this they either sidestep the issue or treat me like I just said the sky is red.
Red sky at night, Shepard's delight.
Red sky in the day, Lenin's up. Yay!
The Secure Equipment Act of 2021 effectively prevents Americans from being able to use many (but not all) modern Chinese phones. While you may see them for sale on Amazon etc, you cannot activate them on any carrier.
No, the IMEI number on the phone are explicitly blacklisted for not being FCC approved.
I saved a lot of money back in the day by buying a phone secondhand and getting my phone number through Google voice. I'm sure there are other similar services that can give you a VOIP phone number, you'll only have connection when there's wi-fi but if that's not a dealbreaker it's a route you can take.
I believe some brands have official stores on Alibaba, but it’s hard to actually filter them. You’ll come across like 50 different resellers and there’s no moderation so sometimes they have “Huawei” in the name. It’s best to find a website from a free country and import it from them
Okay yes we've had first protectionism but what about second protectionism?
anyone have a Huawei phone? how do you like it?
i've got an old moto e6 that my mindless consumer self wants to replace but really doesn't need to
Im getting a Huawei solely on the basis of reports that Israel couldn’t hack them to spy on Hamas
Do not rely on that. The reports are that Israel did not hack them, not that they could not. If you had a top shelf team of hardware and software backwards engineering experts who could make hay out of anything you throw at em would you go with the most popular devices in the world branded google, apple and Samsung or would you try and get the relatively unpopular outside of China huawei devices?
I’m not saying they’re not good phones, just that they’re not impossible to hack and managed to avoid it by being too small a target for anyone to do the work overcoming the differences between them and other android devices.
Yeah you’re very right but it’s something.
Not having google services and being made for a mostly Chinese market means we can, at the least, be assured they aren’t actively building backdoors like Google definitely would be.
To me it seems a rung below running a custom privacy rom. A Huawei phone with a custom privacy rom would be sweet.
Idk if that kind of thinking is helpful. The thing that sucks about security and privacy is that you have to figure out what your threat is and focus on that.
If you install a custom privacy rom on a huawei phone you might be obscuring yourself from state actors looking to gain access to westerners devices but you’re dropping yourself into the huge pool of targets for state actors (and nons !) trying to gain access to Chinese nationals devices. You’ve also made yourself really easy to clock too, since your imei says what your device is right there in the number and how many motherfuckers are strolling around Arizona with a phone you can’t buy in America in their pocket?
The other question to ask is which backdoors you want to have on your device? The obvious answer is none, no backdoors, but that’s not an option. If you are more comfortable with backdoors controlled by Chinese state owned companies as opposed to google then consider what that might mean as tension between the country you live in and China ratchet up.
Especially with the proliferation of tools for analyzing huge amounts of surveillance data, standing out because of your unique signature or if you for really real can disappear in the data field are both bad! It’s better to look like the grillman than the shadow of the hackerman.
Not trying to make a point, just rambling. Maybe make sure your Adsense profile is believably populated.
Yeah that’s the thing, I am more comfortable with Chinese backdoors.
Not in the sense of being a pro-Xi Tankie, which I basically am, but more in the sense that I don’t live in China or have any significant dealings with China. I don’t care if China spies on me.
In a world where I have to choose between Uncle Sam or Uncle Xi reading my emails, well, what’s uncle Xi gonna do to me?
To be fair I’m not that radical and Uncle Sam would find me at most list-worthy and probably not even that because I’m not that interesting but I am even less interesting to Xi, so given that choice I’d rather he’s got the keys you know what I mean?
Thank you for the write up though, upon reading my comment I wonder if I come across as argumentative and I want to stress that’s not my attitude, I appreciate your points a lot. You make good points especially about needing to blend in. I really do appreciate the effort post.
Nah you don’t sound argumentative, I probably sound argumentative.
It’s just crazy hearing people say “x is better for security”. Who’s security, what kind, under what circumstances, when and where?
Our approach to information security is very matrix when it needs to be more French connection.
I have a newer Xiaomi, wish I got the P60 Pro but it was too expensive...
i have a huawei "honor" i dont give a fuck for handy stats so i can not tell you much about that (works like every other) the one difference i noticed is that you can not use "whats app - desktop application".. with it.
which i find great , as it smells like a annoyed Mark Zuckerberg.
They still can't sell their phones outside of China. Cause they don't have access to google play services.
Otherwise its still a considerable achievement as those chips can be sold to other Chinese phone manufacturers
What? There are Huawei brand shops and service salons in Poland for example, they sell phones.
I'm sorry why do you think this?
Xiaomi has 11% of globalk market share up from 4% in 2018? Apple has 33% global share for reference.
Oppo, Vivo and Huawei share another 14% between them. Bringing China's market share in the global phone market up to 25%.
People don't give a shit about whether it has Google Play or not. It has an appstore with content on it, they're fine with it as long as they have access to other apps that do what they want.
Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo phones have Google Play outside of China.
lmao there are literally Huawei phones for sale in my country, what are you talking about?
They're pretty popular over here, second biggest brand behind Samsung
They are still sold in Germany, however the OS is a clone of Android without any Google services. From my observing at the... electronics store phone display, you can download these apps pretty easily from the inbuilt app store.
No one disputes that TSMIC is the leading sc foundry. Its the reason why the US is interested in Taiwan after all.
SMIC is able to produce 7nm despite the US applied pressure on ASML a few years ahead of predictions
Damn, almost like every international conflict boils down to someone getting filthy rich off some means of production in the area?
The T in TSMC stands for Tamerican. Also geez I wonder where all their engineers are going.
