I swear to god, they're the chuddiest of small business owners and every single one does that shit where they have a huge truck and a huge suv for their stay at home wife and a boat and a ridiculously tacky mcmansion and an absurd amount of debt.
Like, is there some sort of grift where you can just walk into a bank and say you want to start a landscaping business and they just let you borrow an infinite amount of money even though you're only going to have income for like 5 months out of the year?
Cause you can hire exploited undocumented workers (while complaining about them otherwise) and basically anyone able bodied enough can do it. It's not a very technical job, I did it for two years and after like a month I knew enough shit to start my own if I had the credit and leverage (I did not lol)
I feel you. I live in an apartment rn but i lived in a house for 5 years before hand and I kind of liked popping in my headphones and listening to theory while mowing and cleaning out the gutters and such.
This is me but with rev left and Chapo
Couldn’t listen to something as intricate as theory
I tend to read theory 2 or 3 times through anyway. So if I miss anything it’s not a big deal. But it def depends on the theory. Lol
Lots of manual labour is like that, I really enjoy it too. Assembly lines aren't too bad (usually can't listen to anything though) but my favourite is picking corn probably.
I didn't mind it when I was younger but it's hard on my knees and lower back now. I gotta pace myself doing work like that instead of putting in 8+ straight hours. I could still do it if I had to but it's not worth the damage to my body if it's just a casual project I'm working on.
Cheap means of production, no regulation, questionable labor practices :shrug-outta-hecks:
you walk into a bank and promise to pay workers less than minimum wage of course they'll think its a solid investment
same deal with the 'family restaurant'
stay at home wife
Around here the wives have the same kind of business but instead of landscaping it's a cleaning service with the exact same model.
That husband and wife post nonstop entrepreneur bro posts on fb/ig that’s like “you’re the only one standing in your way!” With a pic of some guy driving a top down luxury car
As far as businesses go its fairly cheap to start. Not impossible to save up some money get a truck and a mower. I'd imagine they say the truck is an expense
This is the right thread of thought. I know a few people who do landscaping / lawn care work, some under the table, and that's it. For a private yard in Anywhere, USA, you can charge between $30 and $50 to mow, clean, and trim someone's yard. You get a shitty old truck with a long bed, a non-riding self-propelled lawnmower, a trimmer, a leaf blower, and a teenager willing to help do the work, and you're set to start your landscaping business. You can get jobs by word of mouth and basic advertising, it's not that hard to learn, and it's work that feels real. Before you know it, you're
employingexploiting 20 undocumented Latine dudes and renting an office in the strip mall on the edge of town.
Oh this is a disaster. Especially when some jackass who doesn’t even speak Spanish tries to be a roofing contractor for a few years, they do shit wrong, goes bankrupt, then a bunch of people have $15-30k replacements they need to do 5 years later lmfao
In my area it’s mostly underpaid minorities, even the ones who own their own business. From what I can see they work really hard for not a ton of money. These are the general neighborhood landscapers. Maybe there’s another tier that does bigger commercial stuff that is like you say. There’s no shortage of big-truck, overextended chuds here.
Chud jobs: landscaping businessowner, fast food franchisee, repoman, property manager (not landlord, they just do they dirty work), cop, mobile home contractor, telemarketing pit boss
For real, I work for a nursery because apparently the only degree-relevant jobs in Political Science are being a professor and being a talking head for MSNBC or Fox, and I have to deal with these chucklefucks constantly doing everything wrong.
You could start your own nursery and landscape supply with landscaping design services and be a small business tyrant too!
I at least respect those freaks more when they are certified as arborists or what not. Had someone out to bid on removing some fucked up landscaping previous owners put in and the guy pointed to a pin oak tree in my yard and was like get that shit an iron injection it has Chlorosis
I have some friends that run a ecofriendly landscaping business that focuses on reproducing native biomes with an emphasis on water reclamation and responsible water use. They're pretty cool, but also probably the exception to the rule.
That's extremely cool! The re-establishment of these things is unbelievably important, and is only going to keep getting more important as the environment continues to collapse.
Even more disturbing is that a lot of construction workers are using the same bullshit as Uber to call themselves "independent contractors". So these companies will literally have zero staff, everyone gets a 1099, and these guys wives will have some cushy benefit package that they get on through her employer. I know two guys that pretend to be business owners when they are the stereotype of a labor aristocrat.
Because while starting a landscaping business doesn't require any education or license, it does requires a decent amount of money, good credit and most importantly a willingness to exploit undocumented workers. Also, the fact that most of the owners are white guys while the employees are almost all brown probably attracts and appeals to guys who fantasize about running plantations or being an overseer.
Yeah, I had the same questions as OP then realized pretty quickly that these guys are the literal scum of the earth slave driver types. Our immigration system works the way it does because they extract insane amounts of labor from immigrants that ends up in the bank's cauffers so they're a sort of protected class. The buffer between Citibank and practical slavery.
Realistically, there are a lot businesses that can be formed without having to get a college degree and/or go through some sort of public certification that is more than just paying for it. Examples of this can include landscaping businesses and (especially used) car dealerships.
This means that wealthy families can put their failchild in charge of one and it can be legitimately profitable, in spite of who is operating it.
Also, these types of businesses are ones that you can make various personal purchases with and apply them to the business (objects like vehciles).
Working at one now, upscale residential and commercial, where the owner has a signed portrait of Reagan on his wall and plays religious music over the intercom. $18/hr and benefits to prune roses, listen to music, and bullshit with my arts degree partner who embodies the saying "it's great if you shit where you eat". On my resume it will say I maintained the gardens at multiple major hospitals and multi-million dollar homes. I can ignore the Reagan for that.
