latina (cuban?? am I racist for being unsure....) mommy
WOKESTAR games makes WOMAN OF COLOR protagonist
they nailed contemporary florida btw; the energy is very correct
The energy feels very much like every American stereotype I've seen or heard about, as a non American.
Florida is the Trump of America. Basically unfiltered and decadent
Texas is the John Wayne / Chuck Norris of America. Basically an idealized version of individualism and frontier but in reality it’s just an act
I'm from Texas. This is too accurate. Everyone here is a poseur (I'm sure I am too). I have Family from the Northern part of Florida, so while different, it is still insane. When I went to the beach by Peninsula, every house had Trump flags flying. Any hurricane would wipe those houses out instantly.
I'm in the panhandle and there is this bizarre disconnect where these people just love their "rugged individualism" but then Sunday rolls around and they are all about church unity and outreach, but in a superficial sort of way. I hate how many people here are fake nice and fake smiles.
"I'm not from Texas but I got here as soon as I could", I'm gonna go puke now.
And don't get me started on all the fucking lifted trucks that never make it outside city limits...
I've heard the phrase about Florida that the more north you go, the more south it gets. Every time I've been to the FL panhandle I get the vibe that it is like rural Texas, but worse.
Ha, I meant I'm in the Texas panhandle. But dully noted because rural Texas is fucking shit.
Florida is just everything wrong the rest of Amerikkka on steroids, and no snow or basements
It does until you actually go to Florida. That place is a living stereotype.
I get what they're going for here. Show the city, the vibe, the graphical and animation differences over the first one. Not too much, but teased enough to make it abundantly clear that this is a leap forwards over 5. (which it should be, it's been 10 years)
Get the tastebuds going and leave them wanting more by giving no payoff to the trailer, the moment of climax is literally a cliffhangar. Will the robbery go ok? Will they trust each other? Will they betray each other? Who knows. Wait for the next trailer which will be on a totally different topic.
I think one thing I did notice in this trailer is that there is significantly more difference in the body diversity of character models, you've got larrrrrrge big bodied people, you've got height differences, you've got skinny women, you've got thiccccc women, there are huge muscle building men, gaunt guys, short guys, tall guys, overweight guys and more. At least I'm pretty sure I see different heights here:
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Diversity of bodies is very difficult to do and stands out when games do it instead of using a 3 or 4 models over and over. I hope there's a huge range, it always irks me when every single character in a game is the same height.
Red dead 2 also had a good variety of body shapes, but even this looks to be more diverse than that.
It's one of the most valuable ways these world simulation style games can go to completely change the feel of them. One thing however that I think it will also do is highlight the absence of children. Not that I'm advocating for children in these games because they'll only be murder fantasies for people but when walking a city and seeing things like skateparks or children's equipment you also expect to see the occupants that would typically be at them. The closer we get to simulating cities and places the more certain things being absent will feel very uncanny.
Open ended question to anyone - in terms of problematics, how much difference does being able to kill a child in a game make?
If the argument is that it'll make people more likely to do it in real life, couldn't that be extrapolated to the game in general, and the murders of countless virtual civilians? If people want to make that happen, couldn't they pretty easily mod it in anyway?
Thinking about it, in my head I think shooting/knifing a GTA child would feel make me feel uneasy.
More comically evil options like a monster truck or a rocket launcher wouldn't bother me though.
Skyrim had those killable children mods, complete with killmoves for decimating a child with a giant hammer, but I think Skyrim's children are so weird and obviously video game looking that it wasn't really big news. I'll clarify I never owned the mod, so I don't know how it would make me feel in practice.
I think the concern is less that people will be more likely to do it and more about how people might become desensitised to it. I think it's honestly healthy that we talk about this as a taboo thing, it shows we have a healthy concern for the protection of children. Little things that cut into that concern could cut into our sensitivity to it, I don't particularly want people to view crime against children as the same as crime against adults. It used to be ok for random people to clout a kid, mistreatment of kids was normalised and that is still in living memory of some of our Gen X and Boomers. I wouldn't want to go back on that so I sort of think we should try to be conservative with where we're currently at. We'd gain very little from it, but stand to risk a lot.
My biggest concern is that if we took away the pedestal of protection we put kids on we could make it easier for capitalists to re-exploit them. People finding mistreatment of children abhorrent plays into our hands when it comes to preventing their labour exploitation from returning.
I dont want to moralize over it or anything, but i really don't think it adds anything to the gameplay, or the thematic or narrative elements. It doesn't bring anything to the table, and the number of people who want it is entirely too low for anyone to bother with the time, effort, or controversy.
Apart from the uncanny feel of the empty swingsets... But yeah, up to this day I'd never even thought about it. I hadn't even really noticed they weren't there.
I think making a game where you can shoot children would not benefit anyone in any way (except school shooters)
gta v already had tons of different bodytypes and all their npcs are all playable if you go into the directors mode or use trainers. doesn't amount to shit though since their brand of satire is always making fun of fat people
there was definitely an insane retiree near the end of the trailer
After playing RDR2, I was hoping GTA 6 would have missions where you end up being roped into a CIA-backed Gusano plan to invade Cuba and get BTFO’d by not-Castro
There’s still hope it’ll happen, especially if the company still values controversy
There’s still hope it’ll happen, especially if the company still values controversy
but that's not the kind of controversy they value. Politically they've always done the south park libertarian nihilist schtick of "isn't all sides just equally crazy?!?!?!" RDR 2 might be a slight exception to that rule, because they set it 124 years ago
RDR2 is very sympathetic to native Americans and pretty anti-capitalist. I wouldn't go as far as calling it an explicitly left wing game, because there is no political solution proposed to the problems presented, but its definitely critical of the right.
Also, from what I've played of GTA, they only seem to shit on republicans and democrats, without falling into the "blue hair SJW" trope
Really lazy for rockstar to pack this trailer with tons of footage of actual Florida instead of finishing their game
Fully expecting this to be yet another Rockstar Special, i.e. a technical marvel rendering a painstakingly crafted world, full of boring gameplay, underdeveloped systems, and dull, unlikable characters.
Biggest complaint of RDR2 - seemingly never ending tutorials. Every fucking mission had a new gameplay piece that wasn't used for fucking anything else and required you to use buttons in a totally different way than the last one.
What system did you play in on? I played it on PC with KBM and can’t recall them forcing me to use buttons in too many different ways. I don’t think I even rebound any of the keys
ps4. Its been a while, i played it at launch, but i remember the context controls changing constantly and being weirdly implemented.
It really annoyed me how RDR2 introduced hot air balloon, mounted machine gun, and flammable oil mechanics and then you could only use them for one mission and not at all in the open world
spoiler
you use it to spy on the prison john marston is in late in the game so you can break him out
can't wait for the entire open-world to be completely useless for anything other than going on meaningless rampages and driving from mission end point A to mission start point B
Im not hyped for it but I will admit im very curious how it will turn out.
Yeah, same story here. Never really cared for GTA beyond/before 4 (which is apparently the black sheep lol), but I have to admit the Bonnie and Clyde theme is an interesting turn. I guess, in my case, it's also because it seems like the protagonist isn't boring and unsympthetic (cough 5).
My thoughts exactly. I had no hype at first since I didn’t like 5 very much, but now I’m interested at the very least. Could easily be shitty, but I’m hoping not.
Yeah I hope its a great game for all the people that really care about GTA. Im not even huge into GTA but the Florida setting + sandbox might win me over.
I know absolutely nothing about Florida culture other than gators and the beach. I didn’t even really like vice city because even when I was younger it was already too old of a game. I was also not really into the Miami vice feel they were going for. This game however looks like it’s gonna be some kind of Bonnie and Clyde type game which is more interesting I think.
Well at the very least GTA 6 should be a fun historical relic for future generations. Since Florida is gonna sink into the sea.
(Also yes Bonnie+Clyde does sound fun)
The protagonist seem pretty stale. But honestly I hated the first RDR2 trailer because it just sounded like a basic story about getting money. But it ended up being my favorite game. I think Rockstar is just bad at creating a first impression at least for me.
What really interests me is the events and characters shown in the trailer. Cyberpunk 2077 did the same thing and promised dynamic events in the city, but look how that panned out. But Rockstar is usually pretty good with adding details so it might actually be pretty diverse
Just stop it
Stop injecting woke politics in my vidja
No one needs to see a het couple in a game
I just want the Red Dead thing of disappearing into the wilderness (swamps in this case) and emerging back into civilization covered in blood and dirt and like 5 extra inches of hair. If they pulled that off it would be GOTY for me.
I cant wait to run over gusanos and rich people in this hyperrealistic game
Theres no way this doesnt end badly, it kinda feels irresponsible to make a game like this
Ten bucks says the main character is a gusano. Probably some reference about their family fleeing the great evil for beautiful America and now she has to turn to crime to survive. Rockstar isn't clever, and they love their right wing views.
Rockstar isn't clever, and they love their right wing views.
RDR2 was far from right wing. Though Dan Houser said he never cared for GTA and only like RDR, so perhaps the writing direction will be different.
Probably some reference about their family fleeing the great evil for beautiful America and now she has to turn to crime to survive.
… did you play GTA 4? It was an ex-Yugoslav veteran coming to America to achieve the American dream only to realize it’s all fake and the people are stupid for believing it.
San Andres was literally about CRASH harassing black people and forcing you to be involved with crime. At worst they’re libertarian but they seem to lean on the “wow the government is really shitty and we have to resort to crime” angle.
Yeah I’ve never seen GTA as a glorification of American culture. I don’t remember the stories to 3 and vice city, but San Andreas, 4, 5 definitely were not.
Is that really something you can do? I would spend too much time doing just that
I don’t understand why conservatives were automatically angry with this game just because of a female character. Couple gangs exist in real life. Aside from Bonnie and Clyde, there are several spree/serial killers with a couple dynamic. Did they forget that Natural Born Killers is a controversial movie that people tried to censor? Shouldn’t they be celebrating the game for taking that path?
Because there's a segment of gamer reactionary culture that hates the idea of females entering the gaming space, i.e. gamergate never ended for these fucking "people" and they are eternally angry.
I just wish theyd give up hating women because I do sympathize with wanting gaming to be a niche thing, I hate twitch, big corporations and con culture.
I liked cons when they were ways for fellow fans and people interested to gather and meet and enjoy something togethor. Like all things though it's more or less become major advertising centers for major entertainment companies.
yes exactly, and also it feels like a gathering for people with main character syndrome
You're giving them too much credit if you think the thought process was anything more than "women in my vidya, bad!!" Because that's what they've been told to think for a decade.
Imagining one of them walking out one minute into Pulp Fiction
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