I know this tweet was posted a few days ago, but it didn't show up here. Shit's about to get real bad, real soon.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    this supposes wells fargo knew the crash was coming last time, which they didn't, and do this time too, while other financial institutions haven't. furthermore, personal lines of credit have no correlation with the general economy as a whole, it's just a service they provide. I don't buy it. the economy is, in the long term, set to crash likely in a sub prime mortgage crisis again due to spiralling house prices, but fuck all of that has to do with wells fargo providing lines of credit

    • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      it just comes off as wishful thinking a collapse will come giving the left more power. and, if anything, with how depressed a lot of assets are right now and basically 0% interest rates the last year, capital is on a mass accumulation spree right now to turn that free money into assets

      • Optimus_Subprime [he/him, they/them]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        You say this is wishful thinking? I'm looking to keep my fucking head above water. I'm already unemployed looking for a job. The minute the market goes to shit, a hiring freeze gets put on. How the fuck to do I pay my bills then, hmm? UI? AZ UI sucks and I'm fighting with them right now.

        To me, this is a fucking wake up call to get my resources together before shit hits the fan even more so than now.

    • Optimus_Subprime [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Wells Fargo didn’t directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.

      The bank gave this statement: “In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we’ve made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.”

      After publication of this article, a Wells Fargo spokesman gave additional remarks: “We realize change can be inconvenient, especially when customer credit may be impacted,” the bank said, adding that it was “committed to helping each customer find a credit solution that fits their needs.”

      So WF says why they did this but it's not much of an explanation. That was one of the questions asked: Is WF removing PLOC for added liquidity to cover some impending event? WF had removed HELOC a few months ago. Removing PLOC seems to be a strange move.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/wells-fargo-tells-customers-s-shuttering-personal-lines-credit-rcna1370

      I found this reply/chain. It might explain it better than I can

      https://twitter.com/1mikaelams/status/1414615064552919041

      I don't think anyone thinks ending personal LOCs has anything to do with the current housing bubble. It's just a sign of economic instability and a sign of impending crisis, generally. I mean, the writer of the article called it strange and Wells wouldn't comment on the move.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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        3 years ago

        the market is not unstable though, it's arguably harrowing how stable it is with the whole mass death thing going on. tech is booming, house prices fully recovered and more, and many large companies are hugely up this quarter as lockdowns end. wells fargo also still provides other forms of credit

        • Multihedra [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That’s one possibility.

          I’m also immediately reminded of Stafford Beer’s Designing Freedom where he talks about institutions, how they can vary from very rigid and brittle (few avenues of response), or flexible (many avenues of response). It is equally plausible to me that the modern financial system is quite rigid (you see what happens if you step out of line!); that the major players have relatively few institutionally-sanctioned options to deal with the changing conditions. So the train stays, quite remarkably, on the rails. Until of course it doesn’t.

          I’m not confident that this is the case tbh, but it does seem equally plausible to me

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I thought we already were going through one. No one cam afford housing, the price of everything has gone through the roof and no one is being paid properly.

  • ABigguhPizzahPieh [none/use name,any]
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    3 years ago

    I don't know if a recession is coming or not but this is not an indicator of it either way. This guy is also telling people to take their money out of the bank further down in the thread.

  • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Probably not tbh. Stuff like this just slows things down a bit for the bourgeoisie who have lines of credit