It only sucks 99%.

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    I think a lot of the main 'breadtube' creators really dislike being grouped together. For the most part the creators are pretty good, it's the audience which can be pretty shitty.

    • Wisp [fae/faer, any]
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      yeah honestly even a lot of the more tame ones that focus on movie reviews and shit instead of actual theory are pretty good. Like not everything needs to be bashing your face in with it sometimes it's okay to just enjoy a feminist critique of transformers

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        i agree... but its gotten to the point where 99% of breadtube is another takedown of ben shapiro or a movie review like you said. almost none of it is actually relevant

        • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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          Hot Take: The revolution needs to be universal, in all aspects of our society. Everything needs to undergo radical change, including culture. That change requires an understanding of the problems present in our modern culture, e.g. movies, video games, etc. This revolution will require a critique of everything in our present culture, which movie breadtube is giving us. I'd also argue that the economic issues are more settled (Imperialism, Capital, etc, are mostly in the same form as when Lenin and Marx wrote about them) and also simultaneously more complex and narrower than the cultural component. Thus we need less people talking about economics, but those people have a higher standard of research than "watch movie and apply analysis."

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Nah that's just the worst parts of the fandom, most of the creators are at the very least socdems if not avowed Marxists

        Also the PMC equivalent of Chapo is Chapo lol

    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      I don't know Cuck Philosophy but Shaun and Philosophy Tube are great. Pretty much everything else I've run across in BreadTube is just liberal I want free healthcare bullshit. I'm trying to avoid saying his name but Vaush, Vaush is BreadTube.

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        It doesn't feel right to call vaush breadtube imo. Breadtube to me is video essays with some semblance of research and effort put into them. Vaush just dunks on dumb takes, shills for biden, is anti theory, and has destiny tier "debates" with randos.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          Then why in god's name does r/breadtube suck his toes

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I like finding little small-time creators but damn it it's annoying to see his dumb sex pest face

          • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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            Because he gets his whole stream audience to submit/upvote his shit when it's released and astroturf the comments

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I wish they'd ban him there like they did on r/CTH

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                I've asked for it and then was banned for being a tankie lol

                Breadtube was my JAM one year ago and it's gone fucking tits up. Coopted by libs harder than the BLM protests. c/videos will be up soon and I'll be fucking SWIFT to bitch at anyone vaush posting.

      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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        They should work out these differences at the official BreadTube convention where all the official BreadTubers meet and discuss their unified mission.

        If they keep up like this, it's gonna start seeming like they're just a bunch of independent content creators who are only grouped together because they share a lot of similar views.

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              I want to like them more but goddamn it their anti-tankie takes

              Edit: I did not downvote you

              • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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                Even if you put aside the entire "tankie" issue, none of them talk about it often enough that it could be considered the point of their channel.

                Idk why some people think you have to agree with every single solitary thing a personality says to think that they're good overall.

                If someone has a youtube channel that's devoted to politics, they're going to put out a shit ton of political opinions, to expect all of them to be good is completely unrealistic.

                • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                  Yes, I get that, but I can still say I like them but their anti-tankie shit to me is very left punching. I don't see tankie channels go off on anarchists nearly as much as anarchists go off on tankies.

                    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                      Yeah I'm just saying, it's a real one-sided relationship. Like Don Draper saying "I don't think about you at all" kind of shit. Anarchists all red and mad and nude about tankies and meanwhile tankies just like hm hmm hmmm, revolutionary praxis over here.

                      • PigPoopBallsGuy [he/him,use name]
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                        I think a lot of that is because there are more “only online” anarchists that do no offline DA or praxis than MLs that do the same. MLs tend to organize in person with greater regularity. Genuine anarchists online are fine and fun to dunk on for other reasons, but too frequently the label is adopted by what may as well be radlibs.

                      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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                        That's not a wrong thing to say but it's also not a reason to write someone off. You can always consume content critically as well.

                        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                          I hope I haven't implied that I wrote them off anywhere.

                          • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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                            Oh I literally just didn't read the word "more" in your original reply to me and then wrote like three comments based on that lmao

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      Nobody ever gives my man Three Arrows any love :( He's like the German version of Shaun.

      Also BadEmpenada is good when he isn't busy in leftists infighting. He did a video on what it's like to live in Cuba and it's very interesting

      Oh also Curio. They're one of those Breadtubers who spends all their time reviewing games and movies, but they're quite good at it

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        Not hating on his videos they're mostly good, but I just really hate that he used an open anti-communist symbol to create his whole identity around.

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              Call me a lib, I think there's different ways to approach voting(or not) for Biden.

              Throwing out personal/ethical reasons (not voting Biden because of Iraq War or bankruptcy bill, or voting for him because DACA), There's 4(maybe 4.5) different outcomes:

              1-a)Trump wins, people get sick of him, someone better than Biden is nominated at 2024.

              b)Trump wins, Democrats go even further right trying to appeal to republicans

              2-Trump wins, he does even more damage to minority groups(the difference with Biden here is even if Biden doesn't revert the changes, he won't make their life even harder), and puts the country in an irreversible path to fascism.

              3-Biden wins, people realize their problems are still going on, they vote for a more competent fascist

              4-a)Biden wins, someone marginally more progressive than him is nominated(Kamala)

              b)Biden wins, democrats think going right works and they nominate someone right of biden

              Depending on how likely each scenario is, and how likely their harm would be, there are valid ways to justify how you vote.

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      Lindsay is one of the better ones, if only because she's the only one who hasn't felt compelled to dunk on Jordan Peterson yet

      I'm so over that