• Flyberius [comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Is he really trying to equate the Russians with the SS despite them fighting the Russians alongside the literal SS

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Is he really trying to equate the Russians with the SS despite them fighting the Russians alongside the literal SS

      It's such a mixed metaphor that it doesn't make sense. Putin is literally Hitler, but thanks Hitler for fighting the Soviets in WW2. All around just a massivehitler-detector

  • drinkinglakewater [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    So let me get this straight, they're adopting Maoist Standard English and using it to imply Russia is evil Nazis, but the actual Nazis were fine????

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Got it in one, their replies are just as unhinged

      • AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml
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        7 months ago

        The nazis weren't that bad and the soviets were just as bad and the soviets were actually worse and the soviets were the real nazis and the nazis werent that bad and so on and so on.

        It need not make the least bit of sense, only that each argument feel like they follow from the last.

    • muddi [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      That's just how fascism works, there are telltale characteristics: adopting the language of the left, rewriting history, identifying a vague national "enemy" etc

  • Stoatmilk [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Oops, I accidentally had nazi stuff in my tweet supporting ethnic cleansing

  • the_kid
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    7 months ago

    I do not like Finland

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Well, nafo posters aren't a good indicator. But they are bad in other ways

      Although they have nice education and safety net, which they are only starting to tear down

  • windowlicker [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    oh no! my anti-communism got mixed in with nazism! i wonder how this happened!

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I made a big mistake tweeting a map with Nazi names. But you know what I'm not ashamed of? Allying with the Nazis.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    7 months ago

    the Soviets should've occupied your stupid fucking country, Stalin was a kitten

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      fuck that. just sink the whole country, leave the north for the sami people and nothing of value would be lost

      • davel [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        This is the flag of their air force academy today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Academy_(Finland)

        Show

        • red_stapler [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Ackshually the swastika was a gift to the Finnish Air Force from a Herman Goring’s brother-in-law who later founded the Swedish Nazi party so it can’t represent the same beliefs. not-hillary

      • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        The aside glance of the dude on the far right (pun intended) makes this look like a poster for a comedy movie.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          7 months ago

          Also the nervous look of the guy actually holding the flag like he is just realizing what he's holding.

        • AlkaliMarxist
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          7 months ago

          record scratch You're probably wondering how I got here...

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        According to this it is from before the Nazis were a thing. So maybe a little misleading but also weird they dragged their feet to change it.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          7 months ago

          The person responsible for their adoption of the swastika founded the Swedish Nazi Party

          • quarrk [he/him]
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            7 months ago

            It’s still dubious to imply that the Finns adopted it as a direct or indirect result of Finns espousing Nazism. I mean both can be true, that there has been Finnish sympathy for Nazis, and that this specific usage of the swastika is pretty surely a coincidence. At least with the info available it’s pretty weak when there are so many stronger examples of Finns sympathizing with Nazis.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          7 months ago

          It's more that the symbol was created by a Fascist and Goering decided to steal it. It's really hard today to understand that Air Forces of the day were hotbeds of Fascism due to their aristocratic membership and futurist aesthetics.

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Were doing contacts with nazis in 1938, stalin decided its too close to leningrad for comfort and that working people of finland will greet them as liberators. Half assed guaido government, didn't go that well, decided just to take territory too close to leningrad. Finns then actively helped siege of leningrad and were allied to nazis.

      Then they decided to chill out after germany was defeated.

      • ksynwa_from_lemmygrad [he/him, des/pair]
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        7 months ago

        Thanks.

        It's not gonna surprise you but the reddit narrative seems to be that both USSR and Germany wanted to colonize them so they chose the lesser evil which was the side that committed the holocaust.

        • plinky [he/him]
          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          Finnish behavior during 1921-1928 was ... very questionable in karelia. So even they weren't actively allied to nazis, it was still dodgy.

          But stalin also fucked up by creating puppet government without even doing anything, its like "hello, this is your new government, also we bomb you now".

          If only ussr had high tech cia infiltration methods sadness

        • Yurt_Owl
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          7 months ago

          The reds losing the civil war and its consequences

        • CrushKillDestroySwag
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          7 months ago

          The number of people who think that the USSR was worse than the Nazis is really high. As widely debunked as it is, the Black Book of Communism must be recognized as a successful propaganda piece.

      • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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        7 months ago

        I wouldn't call Finns chilled out.

        If you took a random Finn, any single one, and put them in a room with Hitler, Mussolini (or some other fascist, I dunno), and a random Russian, plus a gun with two bullets, they'd double-tap the random Russian and ask for more ammo.

        The only people with a more deep hatred and revanchism against Russia is Poland.

        • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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          7 months ago

          Once I was walking alongside an acquaintance and we stopped by a "Free Library", a little one where you can put any book you want inside and take any books you'd like.

          And inside was a book for children to learn Russian.


          Oh cute, this could be useful but shame it's in such a bad condition...

          "Why would you want to know the enemies tounge?"


          This fucking shook me. The anti-russian is so strong that even considering learning Russian is frowned upon by some. Jesus. Fucking. Christ. And even then, my best response in the moment after being flabbergasted was to say "And what? You think not knowing German during the Nazi occupation was better than knowing it?"

          The brain worms, are that fucking deep.

          • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            It drives me nuts. I have a slava-brained coworker whos refers to anything the soviets did as "Russia", despite the fact that i have repeatedly told him that the Soviet Union had many nationalities inside of it, including the brave Ukrainians that he says he supports. He also wholeheartedly believes that Russia will balkanize when the conflict ends, so there's no hope, really.

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            7 months ago

            There used to be a ton of communist student radicals in the 60s

            Boomers are still butthurt about them to this day

        • quarrk [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          I think Estonia might be more anti-Russia than Finland. Not sure about Lithuania and Latvia but they’re up there, too. But hey it’s not a competition 🤠

        • Omniraptor [they/them]
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          7 months ago

          I'm from St Petersburg Russia and have been to Finland a few times (granted, before 2022), and at least back then this was not my experience. to put it mildly

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    So there are a lot of issues here, but praising the Nazis while saying "ruSSian" to criticize Russia baffles me.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    CAN SOMEONE POST A FINNISH PERSON BEING COOL OR AT LEAST NOT CRINGE ON TWITTER FOR ONCE

    THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST ONE

    oooaaaaaaauhhh

  • boiledfrog [he/him, undecided]
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    7 months ago

    remember the help we got from the literal nazis

    those damn ruSSians

    Both praising the nazis and using them to villify others big-cool