"Bernie's supporters have been very, very damaging to him, and it's really frustrating to see and experience. They don't realize how influential they are. It's frustrating to feel like they are hurting him," Ocasio-Cortez said in the midst of the 2020 primary, according to the book. "I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate."

margot-disgust pickle-liz

She also worried that the behavior of Sanders's supporters were "forcing an unnecessary choice between class analysis and race analysis" through their "behavior, not so much policy."

Ocasio-Cortez made those comments as she mulled whether to endorse Sanders's 2020 campaign, even though she had worked as an organizer on his 2016 campaign.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ocasio-cortez-bernie-bros-reactionary-left-wing-book-2023-12

It's socialism or barbarism dawg

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    7 months ago

    All the exit polling I saw said otherwise, Bernie won all groups(but especially poc and queer people) below 55, while biden swooped up the Olds both black and white, and Warren was left scraping by on a fraction of the college cracker professional set.

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Yes, because the "BernieBro" thing was mostly an online thing. In other words, that was just very online Hillary/Biden/Warren people crying because young people cared more about another candidate. But it was made into this huge issue by the mainstream media, I am betting that it received more TV time in 2016 and 2020 than the Iraq war and climate change combined.

      • davel [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Is the Bernie Bro in the room with you right now, Hillary?

        Just a made up demographic to discredit as a proxy for discrediting all Bernie supporters.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Rember when she tried the same thing in 2008 with Obama boys but the reaction was correctly an immediate "what the fuck is wrong with you you racist old hag?"

          • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            Just everything is so odd:

            Jerseys hung up on wall via plastic hangers

            Could they not afford a cheap poster frame?

            Spiderman and Pan movie posters

            Not my first choice, but sure

            DVD cases hung on the wall

            What the actual fuck. Let's see what's here: capeshit, sure; random action slop (Meg, Hobbs & Shaw, Equalizer 2), uhhh alright; PETER RABBIT, wot.

            MLM poster on the wall (It Works)

            tito-laugh

            Busted old couches

            One guy who's getting a haircut just randomly near the exit

            • AlkaliMarxist
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              7 months ago

              I was gonna say, every barbershop I've been in has had the barber chairs lined up, facing a wall with a mirror on it. Not in the middle of the room, on a rug, surrounded by sofas.

              • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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                7 months ago

                A sofa diagonally pointed towards the single customer seat and exit door

                Cursed feng shui

            • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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              7 months ago

              The guy getting his haircut has dreads and the barber is holding just a comb. What is going on.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        7 months ago

        I love when people do blackface on social media. It's so cool and not at all weird to roleplay as a minority to try and own other white people.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Mayo Pete’s campaign manager (Liz something) got caught literally pretending to be a black man on twitter who kept hyping up Pete.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        I winced from the secondhand cringe reading this. It was probably him saying that and everybody telling him to shut the fuck up.

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          They got challenged on it, so the warren campaign seems to have staged a fake barber shop to prove it wasn't made up https://nitter.net/STEFisDOPE/status/1231425884063764480

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Didn’t Warren get like third place in her home state?

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      yep, AOC is just a warren-ite college cracker professional set-type so she doesn't see this pattern

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        She just "feels" like everyone else should agree with white college cracker professional set.

        Her 6month bartending gig is stilen valor

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Working a bit during college doesn't making someone working class either, nor does being "poor" during college and eating ramen make one poor. These are basically just mini-poverty tourisms and a hazing period for the middle class, not legitimate class differences. The precarity doesn’t exist, they have safety nets to fall back on (drop out and live with their parents at their huge house).

          • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
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            7 months ago

            God damn does it ever wind me up hearing people talk about how they “struggled” in uni cause they had to eat ramen in their dorm or something. Mf you have rich parents and no student loan debt, there was no struggle. These people have zero concept of how it feels to be on the precipice of destitution with no one to fall back on.

            • AnarchoAnarchist [none/use name]
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              7 months ago

              Poverty is when I'm afraid to ask my parents for a couple thousand dollars, because they'll ask me what I'm spending it on and I don't want to admit that half The money they give me goes to alcohol and drugs.

          • regul [any]
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            7 months ago

            Pulp - Common People (1995)

    • carpoftruth [any, any]
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      7 months ago

      Yeah in the middle of the 2020 primary there was definitely discussion of Warren getting polite Bernie hand-me-downs. I can't blame anyone for "feeling" like that during the midst of 2020 - there was a concentrated media effort to make that case and propaganda/advertising actually do work. It turns out, real people didn't actually behave that way though. If aoc is still concerned about that now or anytime after Warren washed out then she's a dumb ass but who cares if an electoral politician was aware of and in some way responded to electoral political punditry in 2020

      • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        there was a concentrated media effort to make that case and propaganda/advertising actually do work.

        Bernie can blame himself for that. He ran a dramatically weaker campaign in 2020 and refused to distinguish his policies from the Democratic Party policies. He wanted to have it both ways this time. He wanted a Political Revolution that was somehow going to be more or less the same regardless which Democratic Candidate got picked. What a loser

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Also the difference between his support from men and women was only 5%, but the media always stressed he was specifically "the candidate for young men"

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate.

    Did it feel that way??? Cause it definitely was not that way in reality

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Thanks God she consolidated all those votersnornshe might do aonething really embaressing like come third in her home state. Then it would be really obvious the only reason she was still in was to split the "left".

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    I used to support universal healthcare but then someone was mean to me online

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    Didn't she literally do a show with Hasan?

    Like, is there anyone that is more of a Bernie Bro than Hasan was? If I was going to describe a Bernie Bro to anyone back when that election was happening I would have pointed at that himbo.

    • Kaplya
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      7 months ago

      She was just being a very good politician.

      It was good exposure for her brand and she was quick to capitalize on that younger generation audience.

    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      maybe this is a power play to eliminate Bernie as the face of the social democratic movement in the US and become its leader in a machiavellian way

      lol, but its probably just her calling for "civility"

      • AlkaliMarxist
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        7 months ago

        I think she's realised that she won't go into the next election season as a progressive hero, but as a sell out, so she's trying to get out in front of it.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          By selling out harder?

          Bold strategy cotton

          • AlkaliMarxist
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            7 months ago

            I mean, yes.

            Seriously though, now any challenge from the left can be blamed on Bernie Bros, angry at being called out. It gives her a counter narrative which will probably be good enough for the average liberal.

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      She also did an Amongus Stream. Little did I know how sus she actually was.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    So she believed the media hype about Warren during the primaries. AOC's peak popularity was during the Trump years when being a snarky Twitter reply guy got you attention. Early interviews after her win revealed how big of a lib she was with how she defended Obama and allowed herself to be restrained just by having a fellow Puerto Rican congresswoman talk to her.

    She was kind of promising early on with the Green New Deal and fiery speeches, but Pelosi putting the muzzle on and the January 6 insurrection was all it took for her to shut up and sit down. Now she gets ratio'd by Elon on Twitter and continues to have terrible foreign policy takes.

    She's the type of American liberal poc that is all race issues at the most shallow level and will talk a big game about economics while continuing to play the neoliberal game behind the scene.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      All race issues except for systemic solutions to race issues or the economic basis of racial oppression.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    AHHHHHHH THE WHOLE THING WAS A SMEAR, BERNIE SUPPORTERS WERE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE THE LEAST RUDE OF ANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES' PRIMARY VOTERS

    DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      REMEMBER PUMAS

      REMEBER WHEN 25% OF CLINTONS SUPPORTERS PROUDLY VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE TO SPITE OBAMA FOR BEATING HILLARY

      REMBER WHEN THOSE SAME PEOPLE TURNED AROUND AND ACCUSED BERNIE SUPPORTERS OF DOING THE EXACT SAME THING EVEN THOUGH EXIT POLLS EXIST

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          I think you're missing the fourth bullet point, blame literally every single thing in the observeable universe other than yourself.

          But then again there isn't a gopblestitouoty party so it not quiet as pithy.

          Also that acronym came out way closer to being prounouncable than I expected.

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    The whole respectability politics thing makes me actively want what's worst for the US and Americans at large sometimes. What, everyone else get to be boorish shitheads and i can't even fling a turd or two back at them?

    • AnarchoAnarchist [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      Respectability politics is when you bomb 8,000 children in Gaza, but clutch your pearls and faint when someone in tictok says that Biden sucks Zionist cock.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Some Bernie Bros made fun of me for voting to fund the Iron Dome so now I no longer believe in social democracy.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Remembering when a bunch of right-wingers ended up boosting that propaganda because they thought "she's just a bartender!" was some kind of own

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        I'm remembering a lot of libs hating on Maduro because he used to be a bus driver. American politics is uniquely stupid because it has so little class awareness.

        • CrimsonSage [any]
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          edit-2
          7 months ago

          It's incredibly class aware, it just hates the on professional working class.

  • the_kid
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    7 months ago

    AOC is Nancy Pelosi, I've been saying it for years. a lauded """progressive""" in her youth, only to become ultimately entrenched in the demonic system, make a lot of money in it, and defend it.

      • the_kid
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        7 months ago

        step 1. she's going to leave her loser normal husband and marry some Blackrock hedge fund ghoul

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I just asked this but did Pelosi even get this shotty this fast, AOC is still way too young to already be at where Pelosi was at the end ofnher career.

      At least Pelosi was literally openly making millions from insider trading before she sold out her morals, instead of just being criticized on Twitter

  • Nationalgoatism [he/him]
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    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Lmao, fraternal order of the Bernard brethren strike again, this time striking fear into the hearts of sellout AOC (an even bigger sellout than cowardly Bernie)

  • BlueMagaChud [any]
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    7 months ago

    through their "behavior, not so much policy."

    ah, you see, the vibes analysis results portray you as a soyjack AyyyyyOC