All I hear from people is that evolution makes it so that having kids makes your meat computer squirt good chemicals. But idk, given how much hard work and money they cost i feel like I could get the same high from heroin with less effort.
You disparage parents with a silly insult, yet you yourself are the result of procreation. Curious! :very-intelligent:
You disparage parents with a silly insult, yet you yourself are the result of procreation.
I didn’t ask them to do that shit, they did it of their own fucking volition.
IIRC, "breeder" started in gay circles in the 70s-80s when moral majority types were weaponizing the fact that same-sex couples couldn't have (or adopt) kids as a way to invalidate queer relationships. It was a way for queer people to express their frustration with a cishetero mainstream that they could never be a part of.
What it means or implies now is ???
I think mainly the fact that gay people can adopt now removes a lot of the motivation
if you're performing a calculation of effort and money to reward, I can tell you as a parent that there are many many more efficient ways to do so than having kids
Consider that quantifying human relationships in terms of the amount of dopamine per dollar may cause you to miss more intangible things
I dont want to have kids because the climate is fucked. Kinda smoothbrained but there it is.
Yeah I think that's a perfectly rational reason not to have kids tbh
Estimating human relations’ value via cost-benefit analysis
When the ideology is thick :zizek-ok:
My friend has always been very anti-kid, being very open about it. As soon as they could, they got two large dogs and spoil them more than I thought possible. They bake them dog cakes and give them steaks, and they have so many bandanas and stupid dog hats.
Similarly, a woman I used to work next to went on a rant about how them and their husband would never have kids and it wasn't worth it, diapers bad, etc. Then a few minutes later went on about how well their dog did at some competition they took them to the last weekend.
What I'm saying is, people are going to get their meat computer chemicals one way or another.
The trick is to get the dog and then build him his own little fantasy world where he gets to be the child who impresses you. Oh your kid is on the honour roll? Mine runs a country. People depend on him.
My children will be perfect, incredibly strong, based, proletarian beings, kinda like that Soviet version of Superman or the Red Guardian from the Black Widow movie. Imagine if you took Fidel, Che, Sankara, and Uncle Ho and shoved them into a superhuman body.
The idea of getting knocked up is hot. I have an IUD now because I like practicing too much.
fr tho
i want a uterus god dammit. i want my bf to make me pregnant and i wanna watch him care for my progeny >:(
lemme know when youre done with it maybe i can pass it on like a hot potato to someone else later
Adoption is definitely the moral way to go yeah.
Don't rip beings out of the infinite void without their consent! The machine elves are better parents than you could ever be
there are no machine elves. And nothing exists prior to it's creation and things that don't exist can't have opinions
Making our meat computer squirt good chemicals is the reason we do everything
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains. Round the decay of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare the lone and level sands stretch far away.
You are going to die, and everything you do, good or bad, will mean absolutely 100% nothing, given a relatively-not-that-long timespan.
Unless your genetic line continues.
Has it really never occurred to why the rich's #1 concern is setting up their genetic progeny?
Not breeding is suicide, in a mid-macro sense. If the pain you feel is so great that you, as a genetic system, want to commit suicide, maybe you know what's best. Or maybe you're just fucking depressed and you need a few years to gain some perspective.
Sorry I'm so aggro, nothing really to do with you, mainly aimed at myself, I've felt the same things before.
Your parents fucked you over? I'm sorry friend, but you literally are your parents. You gotta forgive yourself and try and make sure you bend out of the abusive cycles, so you don't do it to yourself again. That answer is much harder than genetic suicide, I know.
i found the monarcho socialist
also lmao, in the macro sense it doesnt matter? i still contribute to helping my nieces and nephews. your family isnt very genetically different from you.
That's a good point. I admit when you have nieces & nephews and you don't have kids you're not committing genetic suicide.
Still being risky though. Here's hoping your nieces and nephews don't follow your example, thus completely negating your point.
This is such a wild take I don’t even really know how to respond, lol
This is proof I'm a genius.
Could it also be proof I'm the exact opposite, and actually very stupid?
No.
Ironically a pretty common take amongst the chuds I know. Not tryin to dunk at all on op who is entitled to feel how he wants about it. But like I’ve heard this take pretty much word for word from my landlord ex boss amongst other chuds if I say I don’t plan on having kids.
Not breeding is suicide, in a mid-macro sense.
I dunno man, I would choose not to commit suicide in a mid-macro sense but the amount of effort it would take to raise a kid seems like too much. When I'm dead it isn't exactly going to be my problem if people care that I'm gone or not, is it?
Dying of old age is a long, slow, unimaginably painful and undignified affair. Children, properly cared for and raised, make it slightly less so as they can see you through this stage of life with a level of empathy only love could inspire.
You're not gonna beat my argument on rational selfish grounds, unless you actually like dying utterly alone, unloved and without any dignity.
What if someone reaches the point where their quality of life is unimaginably painful and undignified, and they simply choose to end it themselves? The scenario you describe could easily be reframed as, "having kids will make your life drag out for a very long time even if it becomes not worth living anymore."
I'm not saying you should abandon all human connection, I'm just saying that from my point of view the amount of effort raising kids requires doesn't seem worth it.
I think the moments leading up to committing suicide, by definition, have to be worse any pain that does not lead to suicide.
And you're not wrong, old men have the highest rate of suicide of any gender/age cohort.
I just think avoiding the level of pain that is required to be able to kill yourself is worth dealing with a whiny kid for what, 8 years at the most? They mostly get not annoying after that age. 8 years is nothing!
you literally are your parents
damn this is deep bro, pass the blunt.
new type of male just dropped, the one who is both his mom and his dad lmfao
if you masturbate, does that mean you are jerking off both your parents simultaneously? :thinking-about-it:
What a weird place to take this idea. Inspires a chuckle. Not much else.
I'm responding to a "I'm a depressed leftist who has anger towards my parents for making me exist" post.
I don't know how to raise a teenager's consciousness without telling them things most people figure out in the first few attempts at getting high.
Cant gather enough comrades so with some help I made my own.
Not really, but that’ll be my excuse
Tbh you'll just be creating libs. All my comie friends have absolute chud parents.
see this is why you gotta :galaxy-brain: and raise them like the worst chud
if i could, i'd be an octomom every year for the next 20 years
160 communist kids. i could create an army!
Just cause your a communist doesn't mean your kids will be.
Exhibit A: Pete Bettueagge
thats why you eat the ones that arent communist so you can have more babies
Kids are cute and funny and they're your best shot at not getting lonely in old age.
Also, that old age is going to be more survivable if I have a clan of Marxists around me to defend me against roving gangs of fascists trying to steal my gruel and water rations.
