Tomorrow's article: China may be using tummies to hide food.
Holy shit! That's why communist countries never have food, they keep eating it all!
They should do like God fearing Americans and throw it away because it doesn't look picturesque.
this is so fucked up
how can you defend China after seeing this?
Is their no end to those inscrutable celestials and their secretive, exotic machinations?
As opposed to benevolent western nations, where submarines are dragged across the land as is right and proper
Submarines ... in the SEA? Those goddamn communists have gone too far this time
"we also hearing reports they are attempting to hide airplanes with clouds, that is unconfirmed at this point however"
China seeks to subvert US institutions by deploying their Army on the Asian landmass.
You jest, but ironically the US did completely misunderstand Soviet naval doctrine. The US was completely convinced there would be a second Battle of the Atlantic, with Soviet attack subs coming through the GIUK gap (basically, the plot of Red Storm Rising).
Except one US intel group did the unthinkable, and read Soviet Navy publications, which said "our goal is to preserve our strategic missile submarines in 'bastion' zones, and everything else in the fleet is to achieve that goal". So no Battle of the Atlantic II, no Reforger convoy battles, etc.
And they were ignored. Partly because that threatened the logic of "we need more ships to fight the battle of the Atlantic again", partly because a USN attack on the Kola peninsula was part of USN doctrine. Except that could have been construed as an attack on the strategic missile subs, resulting in the USSR facing a use it or lose it scenario.
After the USSR collapsed, that small group was proven correct. Lots of $, energy, and manpower had gone into preparing for the wrong war. Kinda makes you wonder about how the CIA is doing now on their Intel...
Here's a link, WARNING PDF of a Powerpoint about it. Also used to be able to find a video of this presentation, but couldn't locate it this time.
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This article is from 2015 so it's not a result of recent lunacy.
beyond fucking parody
Everyone should save this image for use against libs regurgitating or spouting china bad
There was a proposal in the 60s or 70s for the US to operate ballistic missile subs in the Great Lakes.
Obviously never came to anything, but still kinda neat.
It's so fucking hilarious how hard we'd get owned by China in any military scenario. Even a a proxy in the Caribbean. China would just take over the panama canal, build it to be useful again in less than a year, and own us by supporting local guerrilla war efforts. We are completely cucked by them.
Take their aircraft carriers. Not only are they not nearly as good, even if they were, the US has decades of experience and can launch sorties at an insane rate, while China is still writing the training manuals as they go.
I feel compelled to point out that in simulations, a single danish diesel sub killed the uss ronald reagan while completely undetected by her escorts, and the Chinese navy has subs with the same propulsion system
It was a Swedish boat, the HSMS Gotland
That'll teach me not to go purely off memory
has some assumptions that probably wouldn’t be true during a US/China conflict
Could you elaborate on that?
The bigger danger would be anti-ship ballistic missiles like the DF-26.
I was under the impression that US ship-based anti-missile systems were top of the line, or is the phalanx CIWS not great against intermediate range missiles?
I think it’s one of those things you wouldn’t know unless it came down to it, and the US Navy seems to think they’re a threat.
Pretty much the idea of an arms race I guess, if the missiles get through consistently, build a CIWS better able to deal with them. If they don't, build missiles better able to deal with the CIWS.
In a huge ocean with a fast-moving carrier group operating far from shore, the subs would be less effective.
In the south china sea, can you ever be truly far enough from shore and still be useful? I know a carrier obviously projects power over an enormous range, but if you want to hit targets in mainland china with F-18s you have to be fairly close to a landmass because of the geography of the area and China must have sub pens and/or naval bases in places that aren't China
maybe, but within a decade, american politics will preclude the 'modern' mobile warfare doctrine from being even remotely viable in their armed forces. and without that they are well and truly fucked against any modern force.
This is a stupid-ass take. basically the only situation where china inflicts more than parity losses is if they ambush the US during a half-baked invasion, or build an alliance that completely isolates the US
that alliance is ready made-just add water and microwave 30 seconds on high, and honestly the american military is such a bloated for-profit piece of shit, im not sure they could handle an engagement against a competent modern force. even a much smaller one.
