CW for extreme violence and racism.
On this day in 1955, while visiting family in Money, Mississippi, 14-year-old Emmett Till, an African American from Chicago, was brutally murdered for allegedly flirting with a white woman four days earlier.
His assailants—the white woman’s husband and her brother—made Emmett carry a 75-pound cotton gin fan to the bank of the Tallahatchie River and ordered him to take off his clothes. The two men then beat him nearly to death, gouged out his eye, shot him in the head and then threw his body, tied to the cotton gin fan with barbed wire, into the river.
Till grew up in a working-class neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, and though he had attended a segregated elementary school, he was not prepared for the level of segregation he encountered in Mississippi. His mother warned him to take care because of his race, and Emmett being as young as he was enjoyed harmless jokes.
On August 24, while standing with his cousins and some friends outside a country store in Money, Emmett bragged that his girlfriend back home was white. Emmett’s friends, disbelieving him, dared Emmett to ask the white woman sitting behind the store counter for a date.
He went in, bought some candy, and on the way out was heard saying, “Bye, baby” to the woman. There were no witnesses in the store, but Carolyn Bryant—the woman behind the counter—later made up the story that he grabbed her, made lewd advances and wolf-whistled at her as he sauntered out.
Roy Bryant, the proprietor of the store and the woman’s husband, returned from a business trip a few days later and heard how Emmett had allegedly spoken to his wife. Enraged, he went to the home of Till’s great uncle, Mose Wright, with his half-brother J.W. Milam in the early morning hours of August 28.
The pair demanded to see the boy. Despite pleas from Wright, they forced Emmett into their car. After driving around in the night, and perhaps beating Till in a toolhouse behind Milam’s residence, they drove him down to the Tallahatchie River.
Three days later, his corpse was recovered but was so disfigured that Mose Wright could only identify it by an initialed ring. Authorities wanted to bury the body quickly, but Till’s mother, Mamie Bradley, requested it be sent back to Chicago.
After seeing the mutilated remains, she decided to have an open-casket funeral so that all the world could see what racist murderers had done to her only son. Jet, an African American weekly magazine, published a photo of Emmett’s corpse, and soon the mainstream media picked up on the story.
Less than two weeks after Emmett’s body was buried, Milam and Bryant went on trial in a segregated courthouse in Sumner, Mississippi. There were few witnesses besides Mose Wright, who positively identified the defendants as Emmett’s killers.
On September 23, the all-white jury deliberated for less than an hour before issuing a verdict of “not guilty,” explaining that they believed the state had failed to prove the identity of the body. Many people around the country were outraged by the decision and also by the state’s decision not to indict Milam and Bryant on the separate charge of kidnapping.
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the debates about the trinty are so fucking stupid and were a HUGE deal for like the first few centuries of Christianity.
was the trinity a thing? was Jesus a mortal human man? was Jesus literally God himself? was Jesus kind God but not really? was how closely unified are the aspects of the trinity?
all questions wars, civil wars, mass persecutions were done over.... and now literally nobody fucking cares, even among Christians, even among Christians who disagree on it.
I find the evolution of the trinity fascinating. Especially how the holy ghost used to be Yaweh's wife Asherah before Judaism established itself as monotheistic. Who herself can be traced back to Inanna who had myth about dying and coming back 3 days later. The influence of Horus, Osiris and Isis on it as well. Then also the neoplatonic stuff. It's fun seeing the dna of Christianity.
neoplatonic theology and philosophy is some whack shit, I love that stuff
Now we have fandom wikia talk pages to absorb that energy
True. Debating over the nature of CHIM is the new debating over the Trinity :very-smart:
I swear we had an effort post/comment over that here.
Besides, everyone knows Christianity didn't develop in a vacuum... Zoroastrianism did the whole "Final battle between the spiritual forces of good and evil at the end of days" thing first.
while true, the nature of the trinity is a lot more to do with Greek philosophy than it is Persian. the dualistic philosophy of struggle between good and evil is a far more modern concept, and has really only been popularised among American Baptists
It's really a shame that all of the 'heretic' strains of christianity like Arianism, Bogomilism and Catharism were either wiped out or disappeared. I particularly like Arianism's idea of a more separated, almost polytheistic Trinity.
it's funny you say that, because depending on who you ask a 'almost polytheistic Trinity' is what Christians worship. a common critique in Islam of Christians is that they are polytheists who go against monotheism. in Islam you have the VERY important concept of Tawhid, the 'oneness' of God, that is extremely central to a lot of Islamic philosophy and theology. and so to have these 3 semi independent 'aspects' of God is polytheism according to Islamic scholars
Exposing myself as a nerd here, but I kinda see the type of relationship between Jesus and God as being shown in this passage in an Elder Scrolls lore document, "Shor son of Shor":
extremely cursed interpretation:
cleavages over the trinity are very much like trotskyist cleavages on the left
as the most affected parties have passed out of power its mattered less & less, and the groups that'd fight are more or less unified politically. :trot-shining:
I get why people were so up in arms about it. if you get leftist theory wrong like ok that sucks but you can kind of patch up issues as you go with state craft. if you get theology wrong? you might end up daming your immortal soul. so like, you can see why they were quite impassioned about their perspectives. there's also a very political dimension to it, like the Goths and other converted peoples held on to Arianism because they wanted to separate themselves from their Latin subjects, as faith creates imagined communities and strata
i very much appreciate how for missionary religions its a matter of immortal souls. if you were faithful its kind of a dereliction of duty to not save the unfaithful thru religious-guided government
Hot take: God is an aspect of Jesus, who was a fully mortal man
I honestly take the idea that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are 3 seperate beings that are part of the same oversoul. Yes, that means God and Jesus are each other's fathers, sons, and themselves at the same time.
sigh alright, alright, I'm calling the pope and the patriarchs to get everybody together to debate this one. you free next tuesday?
Sorry, for reasons too complicated to get into here, I only recognize the authority of the Patriarch of Antioch