If you want to support Chelsea, she streams semi-regularly on Twitch
Worth noting if ur gonna support her through twitch do a donation to the channel because it goes directly to her, gifted subs and mtx shit gets skimmed by Amazon first.
I know GG isn't really left wing, but holy hell if you look at the post history of anyone defending him (don't try this at home btw) they're all fucking omega-nazis. How does this even happen, wtf?
Glenn has being going on :live-tucker-reaction: for a while now. As well as tweeting TERF shit and going on Chud podcasts. That's how this happens.
I thought people were hard on him for that (not that I really supported it all that much), but turns out they were 100% correct
I really thought this guy was different for going after Bolsonaro but damn.
She also said that she wished she would've given her leaks to Ken Klippenstein instead of to Assange. You know, the guy who's currently in prison, being tortured to death for publishing them.
She also got fucking tortured and fined a quarter of a million dollars for refusing to collaborate with the US state against him, which I think weighs a little heavier than saying she would have sent the leaks to someone else.
too many carrying water for fash again. there’s a reason it’s called antifa you shits
She also got fucking tortured and fined a quarter of a million dollars for refusing to collaborate with the US state against him, which I think weighs a little heavier than saying she would have sent the leaks to someone else.
All of that is true, and for that she'll always be a hero of mine. But it's also the case that saying that you would've prefered to give your leaks to someone else than the guy who's still in prison, in gruesome circumstances because he did publish your leaks, is a complete lack of solidarity.
What’s your point?
edit: holy shit, did you seriously just repost gg’s attack on her in your own words?
While Julian Assange is rotting in prison, @ChelseaManning recently smeared him when he couldn't defend himself, announcing that if she had to do it over again, she would not have leaked to WikiLeaks. Maligning someone unjustly rotting in prison is not an attribute I value.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1433481686772297730
STOP CARRYING WATER FOR FASH YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
I mean, Glenn is just rewording Aaron Mate's tweet, which is a completely fair criticism. Just because Glenn sucks doesn't mean that every single criticism he has is wrong.
She was in solitary confinement facing daily fines for Assanges sake, I think she has the right to comment on wether she thinks ultimately it would have been better to leak the stuff to someone else. It's not like she's heartlessly stabbing the man in the back or something, did Glenn or any of the other people mad at her risk their life, liberty and economic stability for Assange?
did Glenn or any of the other people mad at her risk their life, liberty and economic stability for Assange?
Yes. Greenwald did just that when he published the Snowden revelations.
Also, he's being constantly threatened by Brazilian fascists for publishing the evidence that the imprisonment of Lula was based on false evidence and that it was a plot by the top of the judicial system in Brazil and right-wing parties. A personal friend of him (who was also a councilmember in Rio de Janeiro for the trotskyst party his husband is a member of parliament for) was murdered by a right-wing death squad which has remarkebly close relations to the son of Bolsanaro. Another gay member of congres for the same party fled Brazil because of threats he received.
i read that as her being regretful because assanage is in prison, is that not what she meant
So she wants Ken in prison instead? Lololol
Why not :trump-anguish:
Glad Glenn brought up her suicidal ideation in a public forum to show that he's being the bigger person. Fucker.
Lots of people on the left -- not all, but many -- mistake friendships for political agreements, such that when the political agreement erodes, for them the "friendship" does, too.
Friendships that don't transcend politics or require political agreement have no value.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
There are two views on politics. One is from people who are directly affected by policy, and one is from people who have the luxury of considering politics a game.
"It sure is nice to stop pretending to care about your oppression every now and then."
It's not even about politics. Glenn tweeted a ton of TERF shit and he's surprised when a trans women doesn't want to consider him a friend? Come on now
lol Glenn literally supported TERF conspiracy theories about lesbians being transed into men, he has to have no fucking dignity to whine about his "friendship" with a trans woman after that.
When she was in prison trying repeatedly to kill herself, I was one of the only one who visited, spent hours on the phone, raising money for her.
Why would you mention this in public on the fucking bird site as some kind of gotcha Jesus Christ fuck all the way off Glenn
Omg fuck that guy. Also I don't know if it's just on my end for my masochistic tendencies, but all of the associated tweets in the link are of chuds and other right-wing grifters.
Ah yes the classic right wing “politics ruining a friendship is your own fault for being soft” argument. Ignoring the fact that the shit he is arguing with says she shouldn’t exist.
Send it to someone harmed by whatever shitty thing Glenn's done now. Do not return shitty person's money.
I know Glenn is a big shithead but what did he say now?
extremely high on coke
"uh Glenn Greenwald is the great journalist in the history of the world. it was amazing what he did, copying and pasting what that libertarian booz allen hamilton employee sent him. the upton sinclair of our time"
I always get confused when it comes to gg, but I’m glad this and the thread has finally helped me decide that he’s just a piece of shit
I mean Glenn tweeted out TERF shit saying that there was some agenda to try turn lesbian and gay people trans, and that bisexual people aren't real. That's concerning regardless of what you think of twitter drama.
I don’t care about the growing idpol rift in the media classes tho.
I dunno, I care. Glenn doing bi erasure was kinda hurtful personally as a bi person, when coming from a journalist I used to respect. And then he throws trans people under the bus like this. That's the whole point. If it was just some average chud saying this, then yeah who cares. But Glenn was the person that published the Snowden leaks, helped free Lula from prison with his journalism, etc. Yeah he had the occasional trash libertarian opinion but he was mostly good. He did lots of great journalism at the intercept after the guardian chased him out. Seeing him go off the deep end chasing chud media attention everywhere, hell maybe even becoming a chud himself, is just sad for a person that did so much good work in the past.
why do I have to read about these dumb fucking twitter fights? can't we just fucking heem greenwald already?
she was so desperate to get her story out and damage real people in the real world trying to do some good
Are you implying the deep state ghouls that were outed in her leaks were trying to do good things
Chelsea was just a very poor judge of character
There is no doubt about this considering she trusted Adrian Lamo
