This guy "used to be" alt-right (i.e. a Hungarian Fascist), then it turns out he's still shit. :surprised-pika:
Original video instead of Hasan clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94_5mXsQTpA
Editing to say I really do hope that all the dunking he's getting on his YouTube posts convinces this guy to read a bit and finally understand why his fascist beliefs were bad in the first place, and why he's wrong.
WTYP lookin real cringe right now after all this shit the past week ngl
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WTYP doubled down the very next episode
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I don't wanna watch them do that, but could you sum up what they said?
Nothing too bad, saying afghan war was a festival of warcrimes (which it was) :shrug-outta-hecks:
Fucking sucks because I like WTYP:sadness:
Couldn't even get through the episode with Adam Something.
I like WTYP too, and I'mma keep listening to them. 2/3 of the members are pretty based cough cough not tying to get sectarian. but I think like all of them are kinda on the hook for this tbh, it was cringe
I've listened to the gang long enough to trust that this is just an extremely embarrassing episode, but if they keep posting cringe they are going to lose subscriber.
oh yeah, I've been listening for like a year and a half, 2 years maybe? back since they were on the donoteat01 youtube channel. they're cool and comrades and so on, this was just kind of fucking cringe and I hope they address it. I'm not one for holding a single fuck up over somebody
Their comments critiquing the Soviet Union and stuff tend to be on point a lot of the time, they just have a really scoldy tone. Like chill out, Alice, and maybe let a year pass from that time you unironically wanted to be a cop before you get too judgey.
I do love the hosts and the pod generally though. (Edit: I referred to the pod hosts collectively as them, and I know trans women get referred as "them" sometimes by transphobes so I wanted to make it clear)
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Oh sorry, my original comment had "I do love them and the pod generally though." Immediately after a comment specific to Alice, and I just didn't want that ambiguity there.
I just hope they realize what a mistake it was. Haven't really kept up with what they've said since (not really that into twitter or youtube comments).
Liam is going to double down. Make my words.
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:absolutely-safe-capsule:
Double you say? :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
That was the first ep I ever watched of them, I wanted to see what all the buzz was about and also because the ep was on my country which was pretty cool, but I feel like I picked the worst ep to start on lol. They do seem like funny folks and I don't mind criticisms of the SU in the slightest but there was some shit especially from Adam that just made me go hmmmmm.
Atmospheric Railway is a good starter
Like half of his comments made me go "I think there's more to him than just socialist critical of the Soviet Union."
His video pissing and moaning about how ugly gonmulist architecture is was an immediate turn-off for me
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No you see, it's OK that they platformed a fascist/apologist without criticizing him, because they're... a leftist podcast or something.
they didn't just platform him, Liam spent half the episode agreeing with him lmao
Fucking embarrassing. :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
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yeah I mean there's being critical and dunking on the USSR, and then there's like 'that time my man spent 2 hours agreeing with a fascist about le tankies'. usually I just eye roll at Liam, but like the context of this is just :cringe:
Chomsky is also an anarchist, and he doesn't do the braindead "I will agree with fascists and imperialists about socialist states on every point because states are bad" thing.
He... very often does do pretty similar stuff to that.
there are a lot of good anarchist comrades. I don't wanna come off as somebody who hates anarchists. I have respect for comrades of all tendencies
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Yeah, I'm just keeping my big mouth shut most of the time
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In one specific regard I do.
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anprims are reactionaries, they don't even claim to be communists. trots have posted a lot of cringe over the years, but if you're a British leftist like I am you work with trots or you're in a very fuckin empty room, like ALL big unions here are trot af
Damn, it's too bad no one ever wrote about primitive communism. :monke-beepboop:
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If Against His-Story! Against Leviathan! doesn't change the way you conceive of history and power, I dunno what will. 🤷
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SOME Trots :posadas:
Chomsky calls himself libertarian socialist and he does service imperialist propaganda like that from time to time.
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There's also, uh, that one "socialist" state :my-hero:
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More anarchists should embrace NonCompete thought
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If you look at the recent posts about him on here, he's basically been defending the Nazis to own the USSR.
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:this: Double-genocide theory is literally a form of Holocaust denial, except it's socially acceptable because all the shitlibs engage in it. It's also an actual fascist talking point, straight out of Nazi propaganda.
Minimizing Nazis by favorably comparing them to USSR. Ignoring that Hungary was an Axis power during WW2. Ignoring that western leaders basically all supported fascism and claiming that they simply rejected USSR methods. Agreeing with western powers not wanting to work with Stalin before WW2 (against fascism lmao). All from the single post.
Then there was the WTYP episode where he went all calipers and said the Russians were bad because enlightenment thinking didn't reach them.
Basically, being against the USSR during WW2 de-facto make you at least a fascist sympathizer, which is the same thing as being a fascist.
It's actually amazing how consistent it is. That was why I posted this - this dude is (unsurprisingly) a "former" fascist, who clearly hasn't let go of all his "previous" opinions.
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State and Rev would be better with slides. Call me a revisionist if you must.
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We need a shorter word for revisionist so that rolls off the tongue as well as "ok boomer"
revy?
Elaborate pls
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Idk, I feel it was apt. Some podcasts are good, but do verge on being an audiobook for the host's unpublished book if that makes any sense
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The Red Menace podcast is what got me started reading Mao. The way they explained On Contradiction and On Practice literally unlocked something in my brain.
No
And YouTube is revisionist!
I still haven't figured out what that podcast is about. I listened to a three hour one about a bridge but they never talked about the bridge. That they have posted cringe makes me glad I never figured it out.
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Agreed, on both counts. Sometimes I feel like certain members of the cast are being "lulz so quirky" and intentionally derail it.
Stopped listening to it a while ago because it got so boring with the filler
it's a podcast about engineering disasters, with slides
Podcasting about engineering disasters works great on paper, but in practice it's 90% random stuff.
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That is fair, and it doesn't leave them much to talk about.
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I used to do podcasts on my way to work, but I haven't commuted in so long that I stopped listening to all of em. I should just do what you do and half-listen while working.
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I have to type words and it makes it hard to pay attention. Though like you said, I don't need to hear it all.
Listening while cooking dinner is a fantastic idea! Thank you for that :)