• aaro [they/them]
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    6 months ago

    okay but like we don't actually believe this, right? Critical support means critical support - this reporting is blatantly false, this pans out to a death rate of 0.0015%, for the same disease that Cuba reports an 0.76% death rate for, which is over 500 times the fatality rate - North Korea is obviously either deliberately misreporting or has no idea what's going on inside their country.

    Critical support means acknowledging that they're doing well despite ruthless embargo, sanction, and unaided reconstruction after a genocidal war. Uncritically claiming they're best in the world by orders of magnitude ignores their hardships and material conditions and is 100% fantasy, 0% support.

    I know some of y'all believe this so this is for the lurkers mainly, if the post was /s then please ignore me yells-at-cloud

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      6 months ago

      Yeah one of those numbers has to be false because that percentage just doesn’t make sense. Honestly I’d have believed them if they had said a lower number of cases and that number of deaths, but together they don’t make sense.

      • Bassword
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        6 months ago

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      • sempersigh [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Honestly I don’t think a public source exists but I’m sure Chinese/Russian intelligence has a better idea

    • kristina [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      What's the omicron rate? Most of this happened with omicron

      • aaro [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        lets put it this way - in America, the CDC estimates 9.4 million – 41 million illnesses, 100,000 – 710,000 hospitalizations and 4,900 – 52,000 deaths annually between 2010 and 2022 for influenza. Assuming the highest possible case count and the lowest possible death count, we get the lowest case mortality rate at 4,900 deaths per 41 million cases, which is 0.012% mortality. That means that North Korea's mortality rate for COVID is over 7 times lower than America's most charitible estimated mortality rate for the flu. This just isn't possible.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          6 months ago

          Could also be poor reporting, they don't have a very extensive system in North Korea. They have a similar issue as rural China does.

          • aaro [they/them]
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            6 months ago

            It's possible, but that would have to mean they have the capability to report a case count of nearly 25% of their 26 million population, but also lack the infrastructure to report any more than a hundred deaths, which strikes me as very unlikely.

  • footfaults [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    Neither of these countries are reporting real numbers. As @aaro has pointed out on the NK side, these numbers aren't realistic, and on the US side they have been underreporting them since some deaths are not directly caused by COVID but another issue that was complicated by COVID.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    Idk about the numbers but DPRK (and China and to a lesser extent even New Zealand) really took the W by holding off covid till omicron.

  • Pili [any, any]
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    6 months ago

    We are once again witnesses of the overwhelming power of Juche necromancy.

  • ComRed2 [any]
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    6 months ago

    See how many more recovered in the US!? We win again!! frothingfash

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    6 months ago

    Remember when no one would be willing to give vaccines to North Korea so they decided to hack into pharmaceutical companies? Then all the libs concluded that the elites would hoard all the vaccines and only drop them to the public in exchange for loyalty?

  • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]
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    6 months ago

    i suck at math but if it was proportional NK "should" have 470 deaths?

    so even by rate it seems they fared better

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      6 months ago

      In the US the death rate is a little over 1%.

      So if NK's death rate had the same proportion to their cases, they'd have about 49,000 deaths.

      Even the case rate is 1 in every 5 for NK, where it's 1 in every 3 for the US.