https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/24/china-great-power-united-states/

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I literally had to scroll through 20 paragraphs to even reach their "evidence" of china's decline (did you know that by 2050, 200 million people will retire? Devestating)

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Lmao, looking at Western millenials and zoomers, by 2050 the Imperial core will be in a deep, DEEP demographics crisis. Pure fuckin projection from FP, as usual.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Funny thing is, the other things they cite (importing lots of resources/food), the US imports more of (or very NEARLY more of) in total dollar amount.

      Food

      The United States, being one of the world’s largest economies, imports a total of $133 billion USD worth of food and food products, followed by China at $105.26 billion USD, Germany at $98.90 billion USD, Japan at $68.86 billion USD

      Seriously, the US imports more in total dollar amount than China, which has roughly 4 1/2 times the population (and is supposedly unable to grow anything any longer)

      Water

      In 2019, the top exporters of Water were France ($955M), China ($723M), Italy ($680M), Belgium ($203M), and Fiji ($168M). In 2019, the top importers of Water were United States ($701M), Hong Kong ($642M), Belgium ($261M), Germany ($238M), and Japan ($168M).

      Maybe the idiot read the table wrong, I got nothing here

      Energy

      Bit trickier, but China does import more oil/gas than the US (but not by much). Can't find anything showing purchase power agreements or similar though

      Sooo....where do I get a job where I get to be grossly incorrect and/or just make things up?

      Also:

      According to data from DBS Bank, it takes three times as many inputs to produce a unit of growth today as it did in the early 2000s.

      If only someone had predicted the rate of profit would fall

      And he has relentlessly pursued the centralization of power at the expense of economic prosperity.

      I suppose that is one way to frame central planning; whatever will the poor executiverinos do if they can't run wild and free?

  • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I haven't read it but is the idea "China is declining because it's rejecting Western funding, we need to save it with western investments to prevent war while we also militarize?"

    • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      lmao yeah

      State zombie firms are being propped up while private firms are starved of capital. Objective economic analysis is being replaced by government propaganda. Innovation is becoming more difficult in a climate of stultifying ideological conformity. Meanwhile, Xi’s brutal anti-corruption campaign has deterred entrepreneurship, and a wave of politically driven regulations has erased more than $1 trillion from the market capitalization of China’s leading tech firms. Xi hasn’t simply stopped the process of economic liberalization that powered China’s development: He has thrown it hard into reverse.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Peaking in at this article and... are they comparing China to Sparta?

      Also...

      It doesn’t capture the dynamics that have often driven revisionist powers—whether that is Germany in 1914 or Japan in 1941—to start some of history’s most devastating conflicts.

      Imagine thinking Germany started WW1. Nevermind thinking that Japan's involvement in WW2 started eight years after the Nanjing massacre.

      This is the real trap the United States should worry about regarding China today—the trap in which an aspiring superpower peaks and then refuses to bear the painful consequences of descent.

      But yeah. Jesus. IMAX does less projection than this.

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    That byline phew. "Prepare your mouth for the taste of blood"

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    They're getting ahead of the narrative that America is a declining power and about to start a war to cling onto it by claiming it's actually China that is declining despite every single metric being obviously the opposite.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    Browser extension to replace "China" with "The US" in headlines

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Hal Brands is the Henry Kissinger distinguished professor of global affairs at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies. He is also a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and a Bloomberg Opinion columnist.

      Michael Beckley is an associate professor of political science at Tufts University, a Jeane Kirkpatrick visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and the author of Unrivaled: Why America Will Remain the World’s Sole Superpower.