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  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    I dont understand how techbros cant see the difference between the provenance of a digital file and the provenance of a physical object in physical reality?

    A file remains the exact same at all times and can be transferred or copied nigh instantly, it doesnt change in hue or pick up a unique flavour from the type of hard drive its stored on, it doesnt get stinkier. There is literally no purpose to its provenance because you can get the identical thing with literally no hassle.

    As opposed to a real object which has to move through space with physical transportation, which based on this transportation and storage will change and become unique or harder to replicate without an equivalent process in time and space. Christ I swear these are the kind of people that think you could be uploaded to the internet and it would be just like the real world except shiny and neon, absolute baby brains, theres no other way you could find people who dont understand the difference between physical limited reality and digital formats and files.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        But surely they must understand what physical space and reality is? Surely no one can be so indoctrinated into bullshit economics and capitalism that they think they can just transplant factors of physical reality into digital space and think it works the same because its just a product?

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Ditching that fancy "provenance" word whatever it means; paying an artist for their work and the copyrights of it makes sense, but this is not that.

    • Rem [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I dont understand how techbros cant see the difference between the provenance of a digital file and the provenance of a physical object in physical reality?

      Read society of the spectacle. I didn't understand it but maybe I will and I bet it will be relevant :very-smart:

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I don't think it matters. I'm pretty sure it's just a get-rich-quick scheme, they don't really believe in the NFTs themselves, they believe it will gain in value because it's crypto-related and they will become crypto milionaires. It's a gold rush, everyone wants to be the first one to adopt the next bitcoin before it blows up and be set for life.

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I think a lot of them do, they're just desperately hoping other people don't, so they can sell their license to brag about having paid twice the average worker's paycheck to say they own a jpg for 10 or 100 times what they bought it for.

      • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I thought of that I'm just curious how copyright law interacts/protects NFTs lol

        Like the original art would be protected, but the NFT is supposedly a representation of data which wouldn't I don't think.

        Does copyright transfer with "ownership" of the NFT? If so is it separate from the original art? If not then would the original creator still hold that control over the market? What are you even buying then?

        I could imagine this going to court and a judge just stroking out trying to deal with it.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          An NFT in itself doesn't affect copyright although one could imagine a license agreement involving an NFT. That would however be completely up to what the parties involved have agreed on. At the end of the day the important thing is what was agreed, not what cryptographic fad was attached to the agreement.

        • 8006 [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          For complex matters, judges can sit back and let the lawyers put forward submissions and base their judgement on whichever of those they prefer.

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      It's like a comic book or an action figure. You can reprint an issue of Spiderman a million times, but the nerds who collect them only care about the Official First Print in the Wrapping etc.

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I once held an old piece of wood worth over $300,000. That piece of wood was also held by Babe Ruth, which is what made it "worth" that. "Collectibles" anything is such a weird market.

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        But it's the age, condition and rarity of physical items like (comic) books, coins or stamps that makes them valuable, none of which are a factor with digital files

        Unless you have a jpg that's been compressed a billion times like an image macro from 2009

        • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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          3 years ago

          With JPGs it's the 1s and 0s that "prove" you had "the best one".

          The image itself is basically irrelevant. NFTs are basically just Shitcoins with unique stampings, maybe like buffalo nickels or those wheat pennies is a better analogy than comic books. Or video game characters skins.

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Valuable to collectors. We're talking about value to tech bros, which has literally zero basis in reality

      • 5trong5tyle [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Collectors don't care, they just want a complete set of whatever they collect. Speculators care, because they want the best possible price.

        Look into the idiotic concept of slabbing and grading comic books, which makes them unreadable, destroying the literal function they were created for, but somehow preserving their "value".

        Collectors aren't the people that care about that, they're just trying to have things complete for OCD/sentimentality/preservation reasons.

  • Wheaties [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    @NDYxNFT

    is... is he gonna fuck the jpeg? :meow-knit:

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    stolen valor, but for neolib techbros and pussy-getting social credit

  • culpritus [any]
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    3 years ago

    NFTs are like some weird offshoot of cookies and DRM ... but on BLOCKCHAIN

    and they really don't do anything but say "wallet X owns this pointer to a thing"

    like some fintech dork wanted to blockchain their achievements so no one else could 'own' them

    I think we like shitting on them so hard because they are such a clear example of how much 'ownership' is just abstractions all the way down

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    You can also register that screenshot on the blockchain! https://openpuddle.io/about

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Holy shit that FAQ. Just openly admitting that their "ownership" model is complete horseshit and is often completely wrong, despite that being the entire reason they exist.

      Edit: Wait I'm a dipshit, this is a parody site isn't it?

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Edit: Wait I’m a dipshit, this is a parody site isn’t it?

        I've heard about NFTs wasting electricity. Is OpenPuddle environmentally safe?

        Our platform currently relies on one (1) NGINX server and one (1) Node.js server, so energy usage per transaction is minimal, but our team is looking into ways to improve this. By 2022, OpenPuddle will torch one (1) acre of grassland for every transaction on the platform.

  • Luddites4Christ [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    instruction unclear, lambroghini? lambogrini? lamebraingini?

    the car, is now 3/4s up own ass please advise