• Jew [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Chappelle bragged about being "cancelled" because of some negative tweets he got and people saying they're done with him. Its like motherfucker, you gained fans from this and said an opinion that over 100 million Americans agree with or at least DGAF.

      I still think the only person to ever get "cancelled" is Colin Kaepernick. Dave will be fine and still adored as a comedian.

      • FatOtisTheBear [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I remember a lot of communists getting canceled during the red scare and McCarthyism of the 1950s….

        • Jew [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          True. I guess I should've qualified my last statement with "during the era of 'cancel culture'". I feel like canceling became a term/thing people use in the last 5 years.

      • adolescentrefusesack [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        The Dixie Chicks were not much spoken of in the 2000s after Natalie Maines spoke out about Bush. They managed a comeback years later but were kinda out during some of their prime years.

        Bill Maher was literally canceled but then ended up on HBO so that's a wash.

        • effervescent [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          The Dixie Chicks were at the height of their careers and one of the top acts in the world. Overnight, you’d be hard pressed to find a single radio station that would play them. Their comeback during the Trump years was basically riding the culture war for a comeback, but the original cancellation was legit a massive push from those in power to silence them

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I had no idea who they were prior to the Bush thing. I'm also in Canada where we got to spend the Iraq war feeling really superior to Americans, so I think they actually got more airplay here afterwards.

      • Rojo27 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Celebrities and MSM do plenty to hype up "cancel culture" despite the fact that most of the time these "cancelled" celebrities stay and sometimes become more relevant. I fucking hate having to constantly hear about celebrities who whine about cancel culture.

      • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Nah, dozens of people have been cancelled and had their entire careers ruined for merely criticizing the zionist regime.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        TBh, lots of people start disappearing from the mainstream when they start to get too radical, Kaepernick, Thunberg, Malala, the more radical teenagers from Parkland (some of them were abolitionists, bet you didn't know).

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        also some people were rightfully cancelled, like, Andrea Smith for instance got dropped the minute she was outed as a pretendian

  • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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    3 years ago

    Several of you have also asked where we draw the line on hate. We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence, and we don’t believe The Closer crosses that line.

    Cis people do not get to decide where that fucking line is.

    I recognize, however, that distinguishing between commentary and harm is hard, especially with stand-up comedy which exists to push boundaries. Some people find the art of stand-up to be mean spirited but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.

    “You’re all too sensitive to take a joke.”

    Holy shit what a disaster of a PR statement. If I wasn’t stealing netflix already I would cancel.

    • BrookeBaybee [she/her,love/loves]
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      3 years ago

      There's plenty of stand-up that isn't mean-spirited what the fuck? And if it turns out the entire art form is just a medium to shit on oppressed groups, then we as a society should be a-ok burning it to the fucking ground

      • FidelCastro [he/him]M
        ·
        3 years ago

        Totally agree. There is a metric fucking ton of stand up that doesn’t punch down. That’s been a standard for years.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      but our members enjoy it

      "Some people find our party to be mean spirited but our members enjoy it." - Adolf Hitler, 1935.

      • SandGland [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I know I'm not sticking around this shithole country long enough to see Dave Chapelle take over as chancellor.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence

      The 16:9 cut of Seinfield suggests otherwise.

  • Kanna [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Passing off bigotry as "content" ffs. So glad I cancelled Netflix last month

    • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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      3 years ago

      Same shit as claiming that platforming hate speech is “fostering a conversation”. It’s disgusting.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        In the name of "fostering a conversation," we're holding a tournament style debate club thunderdome in which minorities grovel before a slackjawed audience and are forced to justify their right to exist. We'll be eliminating two contestants every week until we arrive at a winner.

        :libertarian-approaching:

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I 'have' Netflix but have yet to lay a dime. Someone named Mike pays for it. I have no idea who they are but they don't use their account and curved a laptop years ago without clearing their passwords.

      • Sen_Jen [they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        This is so fuckin funny, big shout-out to Mike for paying for your Netflix subscription

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I didn't take Mike's credit card info or read his emails. If he's gonna keep paying for Netflix I'll use that tho.

  • FidelCastro [he/him]M
    ·
    3 years ago

    Sarandos also said that Chappelle’s last special, Sticks & Stones, is Netflix’s “most watched, stickiest, and most award winning stand-up special to date.

    That is not an acceptable response.

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      "we are financially incentivized to produce bigoted content, because your disgusted reactions only provide free advertisement for us"

      This is what they mean

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      To put it more simply: "Both Netflix and Dave are rolling in cash, so no, we're not going to do anything about this."

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Pirating from streaming services is and always has been the ethical choice.

    • KermitTheFraud [they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      The streaming market has now reached the critical mass of it being easier than paying for all the services too. It’s cutting the cord all over again, just now it also owns the TERFs

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        There was a sweet middle-ground during which just subscribing to Netflix was easier than figuring out the hip new way to download a chunk of media.

        But there are so many god damn services now. And lots of them still try to inject ads into the stream. Nobody is going to pony up $10/mo for every damned channel (and $50/mo if you want sports). It's dumb. I'm just going to steal it now.

  • FidelCastro [he/him]M
    ·
    3 years ago

    The twitter thread from the woman Netflix fired is especially powerful and I encourage everyone to read it:

    https://twitter.com/rainofterra/status/1445914236668895236?s=21

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Netflix then suspended Field along with two other employees for trying to attend a director-level meeting they weren’t invited to.

    It's so funny the idea of getting fired for gate crashing. I want to know if this was in person or over zoom.

    • activated [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Everyone on reddit is screaming about how the article is so misleading and she was fired for trying to attend a meeting she wasn't a part of.

      Like yeah you fucking dipshit I'm sure that it's totally normal for companies to respond to trying to attend a meeting you're not in by firing you on the spot and totally not about anything else.

      If there's a silver lining, it's that since Netflix fires aggressively (they will fire you after a year if you meet expectations, as it means you're not a "superstar" employee) there is always a glut of companies waiting to hire anyone who worked there.

      • SandGland [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Idk if you're employed in an office or not, but crashing a board of directors meeting will 100% get you fired everywhere.

      • 7DeadlyFetishes [he/him,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Literally anything is better than Terf comedy. All terf comedy follows the same beat of "Millenials now want us to call them by thier preferred pronoun! What? can I call myself (insert teh epic random object here)?"

        -7DeadlyFetishes

        • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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          3 years ago

          What? can I call myself (insert teh epic random object here)?

          To which I would reply “sure. If that is how you identify and it makes you happier than I will do that.”

          If/when they keep going though, you are then obligated to gently pull the trigger on your rifle and send them back to terf hell.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            The last thing reactionaries will see and hear is a sarcastic eyeroll and a deep beleaguered sigh. Maybe the occasional "I'm not mad, I'm just...dissapointed"

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      DO IT YOU COWARDS! FUCK IT! GIVE EVERYONE A NETFLIX COMEDY SPECIAL! I'm pretty funny. I could manage.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        GIVE EVERYONE A NETFLIX COMEDY SPECIAL

        They basically have.

    • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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      3 years ago

      Total mismanagement from Netflix, but unfortunately very unsurprising given their cult-like company culture.

      Also, let me grab my bat. I’ll help.

      :fidel-bat:

  • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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    3 years ago

    Full internal Netflix memo that was leaked. It’s fucking trash.

    Click to expand memo

    Directors/Estaff:

    I wanted to follow up on The Closer - Dave Chappelle’s latest special - as several of you have reached out following QBR asking what to say to your teams. It never feels good when people are hurting, especially our colleagues, so I wanted to give you some additional context. You should also be aware that some talent may join third parties in asking us to remove the show in the coming days, which we are not going to do.

    Chappelle is one of the most popular stand-up comedians today, and we have a long standing deal with him. His last special, Sticks & Stones, also controversial, is our most watched, stickiest, and most award winning stand-up special to date. As with our other talent, we work hard to support their creative freedom - even though this means there will always be content on Netflix some people believe is harmful, like Cuties, 365 Days, 13 Reasons Why, or My Unorthodox Life.

    Several of you have also asked where we draw the line on hate. We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence, and we don’t believe The Closer crosses that line. I recognize, however, that distinguishing between commentary and harm is hard, especially with stand-up comedy which exists to push boundaries. Some people find the art of stand-up to be mean-spirited but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.

    In terms of our commitment to inclusion, we’re working hard to ensure more people see their lives reflected on screen and that under-represented communities are not defined by the single story. So we’re proud of titles like Sex Education, Young Royals, Control Z and Disclosure. Externally, particularly in stand-up comedy, artistic freedom is obviously a very different standard of speech than we allow internally as the goals are different: entertaining people versus maintaining a respectful, productive workplace.

    Today’s conversation on Entertain the World was timely. These are hard and uncomfortable issues. We all bring different values and perspectives so thank you for being part of the conversation as it’s important we’re clear about our operating principles.

    -Ted

    ———

    If you ever wanted a look into how these fuckers think, well then here you go.

      • FidelCastro [he/him]M
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        3 years ago

        Good. Me too. In a better world, these fuckers would either be gulaged for re-education or just executed.

        Anyone transphobic in a position of power realistically deserves a bullet. Any brainwormed lumpens potentially should be given a chance to be systemically re-educated.

    • AlephNull [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering.

      New site tag

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This is the most “written by cis people for cis people” thing I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen The Closer

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      "Every human being on Earth had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth" tell me you haven't read Macbeth without telling me you haven't read Macbeth.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        This is peak Chappell's idea of feminism. Women aren't people unless they are children or mother's, but if they are either of those they should be worshipped to a level that breaks a commandment.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      wait is it supposed to be a comedy special? because bitching about twitter drama sounds like absolute dogshit standup. like start a leftist podcast if you wanna do that dude.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      He noted the cancellation of Harry Potter author JK Rowling as one particular injustice.

      Ah, yes. The woman with the multi-billion dollar media empire built on the back of a children's book she cribbed from an assortment of other authors. The woman who can get booked on any major network news outlet for an interview by whispering "New Harry Potter book" into the right ear. The chronically online Twitter poster who will not stop retconning her novels a decade after they've hit the second hand market.

      Love how this is Chappelle's idea of "Someone who got Cancelled".

      I wish someone would cancel Dave Chappelle's ass. :gui: